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Is it "coming" or is it "going"? Ammo availability? Opinions on Rifles.
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I like my 17 wsm , it's a Savage b mag in a Boyd's stock . I usually order ammo online but it's still available in the local shops.
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It's not dead yet, but it's on life support, and the battery is fading on the power supply.
Savage and Ruger are really the only gunmakers (aside from the Winchester 1885 Low Wall), and the Ruger is discontinued (as are all the 77/22s, 77/.357, .77/17 Hornets, etc.)
Maybe I'm completely wrong, but that tends to make me think they're on the way down the drain.
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
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It's not dead yet, but it's on life support, and the battery is fading on the power supply.
Savage and Ruger are really the only gunmakers (aside from the Winchester 1885 Low Wall), and the Ruger is discontinued (as are all the 77/22s, 77/.357, .77/17 Hornets, etc.)
Maybe I'm completely wrong, but that tends to make me think they're on the way down the drain.
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
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It's about the best rimfire to come along in decades, but nobody seems to care right now.
I think it will fade a bit and then come back around again. It's too good to die, for a rimfire.
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I think it would be great it in a lever action.
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IF I didn't have an accurate Hornet, I'd be tempted, but I do. From the limited reviews I've seen, the Hummer is more accurate and is a great round for plinking and targets, and is so popular that it'll be around forever, so it's likely I'll get one of those someday. The WSM, in a rifle that appeals to me, is just too big a financial risk, with no easy escape path if it goes under.
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It's the best you can get in a varmint cal. without going centerfire.
Frankln i Armory AR platform with the release trigger is sweet.
I believe Volquartson packages the AR in .17 WSM also.
Among others.
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I was really hoping this would fly since Ruger was getting into the game. Now I am not so sure. The Ruger 17wsm looked good but who knows now. Still wish I had bought the Ruger when available. Oh well, I thought the 5mm was making a comeback also. These guns are like some of my favorite football teams, just a little short to make the big time!!!
USE ENOUGH GUN (Ruark) and YOU CAN'T EVER HAVE TOO MANY (me)
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It is going the way of the 17HM2 - there may be a bit of it out there but before long it will be premium priced when it can be found.
In my limited experience of two rifles the accuracy was only so-so. Even early on ammo was a little hard to find. Like someone else posted - if you want a 17 rimfire go with the 17HMR, it is not as fast as the 17WSM but it seems to give good accuracy in most guns and there is a lot of ammo available for the HMR.
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223 Rem, my favorite cartridge - you can't argue with truckloads of dead PD's and gophers.
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If Ruger were to chamber the 17WSM in their American Rifle I could see it having a future.
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I think that it is a good cartridge, as most are, and it opens its own market niche, but it needs a reasonably price accurate rifle to get some traction and forward momentum. The Savage B-Mags don't have a very good reputation and the Rugers are expensive. I think that Ruger would make a killing if they made the American Rifle in 17 WSM and were able to see it for $400 or less at retail.
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If Winchester or Remington made a rifle, it would do better. I'm not a Savage fan (modern gun) ,but I bought a b mag . I had my expectations curbed for the gun, but really like the cartridge.
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It's the best you can get in a varmint cal. without going centerfire.
Frankln i Armory AR platform with the release trigger is sweet.
I believe Volquartson packages the AR in .17 WSM also.
Among others. Those two hardly represent affordable options. JB reports that the A17 Hummer ammo comes very close to WSM performance, and there are scads of rifles at all price levels that can use that.
What fresh Hell is this?
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What's A17 hummer? Video of 17 HMR vs 17 wsm on cantaloupe. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EbsgWFsDoSU
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What is the advantage of the 17WSM with 25gr bullets at 3000 over the 223 with 50gr bullets at 3000, almost the same BC and absolutely better availability of everything across the board.
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What is the advantage of the 17WSM with 25gr bullets at 3000 over the 223 with 50gr bullets at 3000, almost the same BC and absolutely better availability of everything across the board. Sounds like a great topic for a NEW thread.
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Is it "coming" or is it "going"? Ammo availability? Opinions on Rifles.
Not sure. Ammo is available. Been covered.
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What is the advantage of the 17WSM with 25gr bullets at 3000 over the 223 with 50gr bullets at 3000, almost the same BC and absolutely better availability of everything across the board. Sounds like a great topic for a NEW thread. Like comparing the HMR to the WSM.....GMAFB
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Ruger American in 17 WSM, would be perfect. And they would sell oodles
As for me, 17 fireball is still the uber
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