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I had a 270, you'll never hear me argue it's effectiveness. Most of what I described earlier is that rifle loony voice talking in my ear that there has to be something better or gives you an edge over the established cartridges like the 270 or 30-06, etc. I know damned well, though, that if there were any improvement at all, it would be so small that it's not worth chasing the impracticality of it all. My 270 hammered everything I pointed it at, and I've never pulled the trigger on anything past 300 yards. But that makes no difference, the campfire has all the answers and everyone on here is always right with whatever it is they are trying to upsell! With that said, the 6.5 Creedmoor keeps on singing to me... 
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My current 270 loaded with a max charge of Re26 over a 150 Partition is the only thing that kept me from buying a 280AI. Running the numbers - 150/270, 160/280AI - there isn't much difference between them. In fact the 270 shoots a wee bit flatter.
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Yep. After reading the recent thread about Re26, 4lbs magically showed up at my door!
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John,
If you ever decide to act on that notion, I have a few boxes of old but never-fired Western .275 H&H brass in good shape. Bought 'em off the Campfire a couple-three years ago, just because of the possibility of finding a .275 H&H someday. So far I haven't, but they're here.
One nice thing about the .275 is, unlike some other British .28 calibers, it uses .284" bullets rather than .288's.
I'll keep that in mind. I have never even seen a rifle chambered in 275. No running to the hardware store to pick up more ammo, that's for sure.
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elkchsr, was checking some of the threads, the list of older rifles you use is quite impressive.. Enjoyed it. Thanks! I've had to suffer a "bad influence" in my formative years.
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Biggest return on your investment 6.5mm or 7mm? Investment...really.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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280, 280AI, 7 mag of some kind. If this is to be your main big game hunting rifle, you could not go wrong with any of these.
When I finally go on an Elk hunt, I will not be bringing my 6.5x47 Lapua. I get that it would probably work just fine. I get the whole bullet placement argument. I am not saying that it would be a "marginal" cartridge for Elk. Just saying that I would feel more confident with a slightly bigger stick.
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You should've used something with more energy, Bob!  Teeder yeah.....a case of inadequate energy dump....LOL
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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John,
What happened to your 6.5-06?
If I could have only one 6.5 cartridge to hunt with it would be the 6.5-06.
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I am asking mostly because I've been sniffing around getting a 6.5x55 or 6.5 Creedmoor; 280 or a 7 mag of some flavor.
What say ye? Georgia = whitetails. I say 6.5 Creed. Only other thing I could say is 7-08. Dat's it.
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Never ceases to amaze......
all the love for a cartridge loaded to 60,000psi to accomplish what has been done by another cartridge at 51,000psi for over 100 yrs.??? Things are tough for the Swede..Too long for a short, too short for a long. meaning unless you have a thing for it may as well go 6.5'06( i kinda do have a thing for the swede tho, i have 3 of them  No no, its neither too short nor too long, (like Goldilocks said) "it's juuust right".
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I'm loving my 6.5-06 but of the cartridges mentioned I like the performance to recoil of the 7mm Mag. I am currently shopping for a 6.5 Creedmore though to play with.
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7-08 gets a lot done with little powder. Kinda irritating to a 280 lover.
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I'm not much on 'settling'.
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I don't want a truck that will do 90% of what I need done. I don't want a tractor that will do 90 % of what I need done. There are 'several' cartridges that will do 90 % of what their big brothers DO. Jerry
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Yeah, a .375 H&H is a much better choice than any 6.5 or 7mm, just in case a brown bear or Cape buffalo shows up at your door.
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I have a 7mm-08, a 7x57, a 280 and 7mm RM's.
I prefer long actions so That I can seat the bullets where I like. For that reason and flexibility I like the 280. But I like the others too.
As far as accuracy the 280 with 150 grain partitions and one of my 7mm RM's with several bullets (interlocks) shoot 1/2 MOA.
None of them recoil enuf to matter. The 7x57 shoots cast bullets very well.
I'm glad I can still keep them all. (Along with my coyote rifles - the 270's).
If it came down to which I'd keep because of powder cost, I'd be very unhappy with the situation.
I prefer classic.
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Yeah, a .375 H&H is a much better choice than any 6.5 or 7mm, just in case a brown bear or Cape buffalo shows up at your door. OKAY - I should have mentioned some parameters. I think you know what I meant. BTW, I don't need B bear or Cape Buffalo capable rifle. IOWs, there are quite a few cartridges that WOULD HAVE accomplished 90% my deer hunting needs but there has been that OTHER 10%. I don't like 'settling'. Jerry
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Jerry,
Yeah, I knew what you meant! :-)
But are you saying that a 6.5mm will only do 90% of what a 7mm will do?
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One nice thing about the .275 is, unlike some other British .28 calibers, it uses .284" bullets rather than .288's.
Holland & Holland has .275H&H bullet diameter at .287", and its the precise reason Woodleigh specifically make the .287" 160PP and 175PP 280 Halger, 280-333 Jeffery ,280 Ross also use .287" projectiles. Maybe its the Pre-war factory M70 .275H&H that has the obscure .284", but I don't know because I've never seen one.
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Jerry,
Yeah, I knew what you meant! :-)
But are you saying that a 6.5mm will only do 90% of what a 7mm will do? NO, not at all. I was talking about 6.5 Swede // 270,280. OR 708 // 280 with handloads and others in similar category or comparison. Now, I also know that IF you have time to use Binos.. LRF.. Read Drop Chart.. Twist turret..--<I left this one out> Aim.. Shoot THEN the 6.5 Cred, Swede, 7-08 etc. WILL kill at longer ranges. I like--PREFER-- faster, flatter shooting cartridges so that up to reasonable long range you 'hold on hair' and shoot. Thnx for asking Jerry
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