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It's waiting for a different DOJ, for one.

Regardless, if you've worked with trafficing victims, none of this would surprise you.

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Originally Posted by RWE
Well, some guy from NC decided to go investigate the pizza place with his assault rifle.

And "fake news" is the new phrase for Conspiracy Theory.

The MSM found it necessary to discredit everything not brought to you by them...


they're going to find it necessary to discredit alot of stuff.

Look at how they are trying to marginalize twitter right now because god forbid they have someone talk directly to the people and can't control the narrative.


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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Regardless, if you've worked with trafficing victims, none of this would surprise you.


Trafficking is a serious problem, and we need to do more to stop it.

Pizzagate, not so much.



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Is there any actual evidence? Or just internet speculation? If there is evidence, people need to do hard time.

The sage of 'Pizzagate': The fake story that shows how conspiracy theories spread - BBC

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In early November, as Wikileaks steadily released piles of emails from Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta, one contact caught the attention of prankster sites and people on the paranoid fringes.

James Alefantis is the owner of Comet Ping Pong, a pizza restaurant in Washington. He's also a big Democratic Party supporter and raised money for both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. He was once in a relationship with David Brock, an influential liberal operative.
Alefantis - who's never met Clinton - appeared in the Podesta emails in connection with the fundraisers.

And from these thin threads, an enormous trove of conspiracy fiction was spun.

Users of 4chan, a message board known for free speech, extreme content and trollish behaviour, began posting speculation and supposed connections gleaned from internet searches. They trawled Alefantis' Instagram feed for pictures of children and the modern art which lines his restaurant's walls, and dreamt up a paedophile sex ring involving prominent politicians and political donors.


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The conspiracy theory bubbled up from 4chan onto the mainstream internet when a Reddit user posted a long document with all of the "evidence" several days before the US election. It first appeared on a section of the site popular with Donald Trump supporters from the extremist white nationalist alt-right.


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The fake story remained the preserve of 4chan and alt-right Reddit until mid-November, when Turkish pro-government media outlets suddenly took an intense interest.

Their tweets were in Turkish, but they used the English hashtag: #Pizzagate.

As outlined by Efe Kerem Sozeri of the Daily Dot, supporters of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan cottoned onto the tale as a way to accuse opponents of hypocrisy.


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Originally Posted by ol_mike
I lived in Biloxi for 22 years -it's a town with a very slimey underbelly VERY SLIMEY .
Back in the 80's there was a young guy named Robbie who was the son of the lowest of the lowlifes . He rode around town in a new Nissan 280 zx -never worked sold drugs -dealt in stolen stuff etc . .
A friend Richard said he had turned his life around after his longtime girlfriend OD'd and died .
I was visiting Richard when Robbie came by his house -I had never actually met him , we sat and BS'd about this and that and the conversation went deeper and deeper about Robbie's scum family. There were rumors about this crazy stuff but now Richard and I were hearing it from the horse's mouth .
He told us the details of some of the things his family did , they ran ads in newspapers in atlanta -birmingham , al. nashville and as far a dallas Tx. . The newpaper ads claimed to be a home for wayward kids -runaways -troubled kids etc ..
They had a toll free number and would make it sound great like a hip place for these young kids to come to . They'd tell the kids that called to bring their friends you'll love it here etc. -etc. then drive a van and pick them up .
Once there the kids were drugged and kept as sex slaves for high paying perverts according to him many were politicians and other people who were "suppose" to be leaders . High ranking military officers also .
They would rent the kids -boys and girls- out for pervert parties etc. .
As I sat listening he leaned forward as his voice crackled -and said -it's no wonder I'm so F'up . He said the kids would just disappear -he didn't know if they had sold them or killed them -as he wiped tears from his eyes.
Many of the people [perverts] were then blackmailed by his dad and their gang of scum .
There was a bar on the same grounds where isle of capri casino is located -it's called "the point" in biloxi , perverts could go "around back" and get a room with a kid for sex .
Robbie said they extorted 100's of thousands of dollars from people from all over the country -according to him --many in politics . We all know the old saying about politics & strange bedfellows . Disgusting story I know but there it is ,, heartwrenching to think of the plight of those children .
SO anybody who thinks this type stuff doesn't happen -well I can tell you -it does .



Satan's biggest accomplishment is in convincing humanity he doesn't exist.
Its happening, and its pervasive. Wikileaks and Weiner's laptop did more than expose Hillary's true nature. The emails exposed a far reaching travesty of crimes against children. The dots are being connected, more is being revealed.

More recently exposed connections are pictures of underground "construction" projects beneath the 2 pizza places in Washington DC. Interesting that no permits were ever filed for the projects.
The pedophiles are exposing themselves in their bragging to others on facebook in bizaar code. Please pray that righteous LE persevere in their investigation.

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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
It's waiting for a different DOJ, for one.

Regardless, if you've worked with trafficing victims, none of this would surprise you.


Anyone who has worked in the mental health field, or state facility with adolescents, would not be surprised.

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To paraphrase the Bard of Avon,....

"Methinks they dost protest too much".



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Not sure of your point. Wouldn't you protest if someone falsely accused you of pedophilia?

I understand Dakota Deer's point about the story being plausible. Just as it would be plausible if his name or mine were attached to it. People would say "it could be true."

But that doesn't make it OK. It's not OK to propagate libel just because it sounds plausible, or just because the "right" people are getting libeled.



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Originally Posted by ol_mike
I lived in Biloxi for 22 years -it's a town with a very slimey underbelly VERY SLIMEY .


I tried for several years to get into the culture of the gulf coast. Settled in a little town next to Biloxi called Ocean Springs.

It just never took with me. I met far too many of those scum types and not enough good people. I packed up and got away. Still have family in the area so I go there for holidays, weddings, etc., but I never want to live there again.

Never met so many people who felt dishonesty was a way of life than I did on the gulf coast. Note: I've never lived in New York.



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Well,...dropping reference to the classical, let's just go with an old colloquialism,...
...."This WILL all come out in the wash."

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I actually lived in Ocean Springs for the last 10 years before I left .

Try running a business in that crap hole called the Ms. gulf coast -there's no place with more liars -theives all around scumbags .
The place is far worse than I make it out to be ..


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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Well,...dropping reference to the classical, let's just go with an old colloquialism,...
...."This WILL all come out in the wash."

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Meaning you believe the pizxagate story?



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WTF don't you quit putting words in other people's mouth, makes you come across as a real azzwhole......

Let's just say that The cat's out of the damned bag, and those of us who've been having to GUARD our school bus stops for damn near decades, against organized international child abduction activities, white slavers, AND caballistic end users are gratified to see a light shone into the darker corners of la-la land.

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Sorry you took offense but my question was an honest one, and not an attempt to put words in anyone's mouth. I'm not a mind reader, and I can't interpret your post below with respect to the subject of the OP in this thread.


Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Well,...dropping reference to the classical, let's just go with an old colloquialism,...
...."This WILL all come out in the wash."

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My only point is, letting libelous stories slide because they castigate people who we believe ought to be castigated is a slippery slope.

Would you dispute that?



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Who believes who should be castigated? I would wager that most folks reading about this pizzagate stuff, don't know and likely have NEVER heard about the people who seem to be involved.
The slippery slope is in assuming, that people who find grains of truth in this reporting, originally hated the people involved in the first place. I'm seeing words and assumptions being put in people's mouths by your statement.
No intention to cause a fight, just calling it as I see it.

I have experienced being castigated for something I didn't do, by people who just wanted to besmurch my reputation, for whatever heinious reason. When you work around people who aren't honorable adults, that happens. But, what your are referencing here is not the case.
Honest, good people can become so shocked by this stuff, that their minds attempt to block it with a strong denial filter. But blinders are what pedophiles expect people to wear.

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I am not going to "dispute" or confirm jack diddly chit in dialogue / debate with folks who've apparently been only recently advised and brought up to speed on something this old (indeed ANCIENT), vile, and deeply embedded.
Some of the other folks posting have agreed that working with and trying to re-assemble the many shattered lives attributable in part to the market that wealthy degenerates constitute have tried to get their point across,.....
You're not getting, ...perhaps don't want to get their points, or mine.
Hey,...I'm not going to grill anybody for shying away from the fear and loathing attendant to actually STUDYING this "market" a bit, or be critical of a perfectly natural tendency to deny it's existence.
I'll thank you to forgo trying to grill me, and would encourage you to spend some time with folks who actually work in investigate and pursue the players.
Very tough subject material, literally the stuff of nightmare, so look after your own psyche, if you choose to delve any deeper than listening to what the MSM is saying today.

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Originally Posted by Wyogal
Who believes who should be castigated? I would wager that most folks reading about this pizzagate stuff, don't know and likely have NEVER heard about the people who seem to be involved.
The slippery slope is in assuming, that people who find grains of truth in this reporting, originally hated the people involved in the first place. I'm seeing words and assumptions being put in people's mouths by your statement.
No intention to cause a fight, just calling it as I see it.

I have experienced being castigated for something I didn't do, by people who just wanted to besmurch my reputation, for whatever heinious reason. When you work around people who aren't honorable adults, that happens. But, what your are referencing here is not the case.
Honest, good people can become so shocked by this stuff, that their minds attempt to block it with a strong denial filter. But blinders are what pedophiles expect people to wear.

This fella's claiming that he's missing the "points" that people are trying to make, and clearly trying to draw folks out.
I can't "read" that effort,or it's intention,worth a damn.I DO know that the more one actually knows / learns about all of this, the more reticent they become to discuss it in big crowds.
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Originally Posted by Wyogal
Who believes who should be castigated? I would wager that most folks reading about this pizzagate stuff, don't know and likely have NEVER heard about the people who seem to be involved.


Wasn't Podesta implicated? I'd wager everyone who posts here knows who he is.


Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Very tough subject material, literally the stuff of nightmare, so look after your own psyche, if you choose to delve any deeper than listening to what the MSM is saying today.

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I'm not saying anything about trafficking in general, whether it takes place or not, or how horrible it is.

But it looks to me like the owner of the pizza place is taking a beating for something he didn't do. It looks to me like his biggest crime is contributing money to democrats.

If anyone has information to the contrary, I'll stand corrected.



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Honest, good people can become so shocked by this stuff, that their minds attempt to block it with a strong denial filter. But blinders are what pedophiles expect people to wear.


Blinders ?.... they've been refining the art of so doing for many centuries now.

I thank you for the quoted bold above, you have a far nicer way of approaching the "Doubting Thomas" than I.

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