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Most interesting part is how the Montana soaks it up though. Took a few back and forths to figure it out, but that damn stock and pad are impressive.

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When I first got my 7-08 Montana I was getting erratic groups. I tried the techniques guys talked about here and groups got better. I kept messing with it thinking it was all me and my technique. Sometimes it shot very well and sometimes not. I chalked it up to my mistakes in technique when it didn't group as it should.

This past fall I bedded it and changed my scope and mounts to a more solid system. The rifle suddenly became easy to shoot well with my old style target techniques of as little input from me as possible. I no longer had to hold it down or any of the other light rifle garb you hear preached. Now it has produced some of the smallest groups I have ever shot with a hunting rifle, and I am suddenly able to shoot it well every time.

Amazing ain't it! No way I would have believed before that my Montana would have less felt recoil than a same caliber rifle shooting the same loads two pounds heavier, until I experienced it for myself.

My 270 is a puzzycat.

The uber cush pad makes a big difference.

A 5lb 13oz 84M shooting 210 Partitions is snappy at the bench for sure!

RH : My experience has been that when you have to resort to all sorts of special techniques, searching high and low for special loads, etc to get a rifle to shoot, the problem is usually a mechanical one where some aspect of the rifle is assembled like a POS....loosey goosey at best.

All the other stuff we talk about here getting a rifle to shoot is mostly an attempt to over come some assembly or component deficiency.

Fix the mechanics nd the rest will fall into place. Stick calls this "starting at the start" but the concept is simple and lots of people look right past it.

You can use the best components in the world; sloppy assembly negates them all. A Kimber is no different.

Couldn't agree more Bob. My favorite and best gunsmith, now retired,screwed together my first 'build' for me, and load development consists of simply putting cartridges in the gun....

If a guy wants the warm and fuzzies of itty bitty groups on paper IMO the triggers have to be very light....safe....but light. It's just such a light rifle that it can be steered left or right with just the trigger pull if you don't really hold down the fore end. None of which is an issue killing something that gives you a pie plate of forgiveness through vitals but if you demand those little groups on paper there's definitely some variables you have to be aware of in an all up 6lb rifle. If I don't hold it a certain way i swear it moves from my breath!....grin

Pulling a trigger without moving the gun off target in the #1 key to accuracy.It doesn't matter if we are talking rifles or handguns. Until you can pull the trigger without moving the gun off target ,nothing else matters.A very light trigger,or a very heavy gun makes that easier but it can be accomplished with practice in any case.

Inge:Exactly....... Fighting my way past so many rifles built like slop eventually sunk in. But Im a little slow and had to figure some of this stuff out on my own.

When it's made of good components but won't shoot there is only one possibility left....it's broke and needs to be fixed.

I LMAO at all the "load development" with groups scattered merrily across inches of targets and just know it's [bleep] barrels,actions not trued, hacked bedding,who knows what else,along with clueless shooters.

Your smith is a smart guy.



Here's what happens to "load development" when the rifle is fixed and components properly assembled, before we start reaching for magic powders and bullets, and wasting time and components .

First hand load fired through that 7 Rem Mag.

So Bob, you're an experienced rifleman. Since there are so many hit and miss Kimber accuracy issues, is Kimber a well built rifle from the factory, sloppy, poor quality control, or what? The lightest rifle I owned was a Nosler Patriot 7-08. It shot like a dream from the start.

And weighed what with scope and rings?




Dave

Exactly. The Kimber may require some work to be perfected as it comes from the factory, but if a total newby to bedding like me can get it right the first try, then it's well worth the price of admission. It's not like it's the only factory rifle that requires a little work.

I guess it's just expected that you need to change the trigger, barrel, stock, and bed a model 700, so no one complains. After all the model 700 costs so much less.LOL Why does no one count the full cost plus parts and complain about that?

this is the first 100 yard group I shot after bedding my POS Kimber. Factory Accubonds no less.


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So 6lb rifles are harder build than 6.7lb rifles?

Nice shooting RH. I've had 5 Tikkas that shot just like that, factory rings, out of the box, factory ammo.

You've either shot light rifles or you haven't.

Have you or not?




Dave

Nosler weighs 6.75lbs naked . . . but these Montanas are going about 6lbs scoped.



Yes . . . much.

The Tikkas are great,no doubt. If they weighed 5.2 lbs rather than 6.7 Kimber would be out of business. That either matters to you or it doesn't. I'm happy either way,even if I have to bed the Kimber to get it to shoot.

Which brings us back to the same thing that's been stated 1,000 times to the same people.

There is NO RIFLE COMPARABLE TO THE KIMBER MONTANA.





Dave

I thought the superlite Tikka was 5.8 lbs?

If you are packing beer thats minus 1/2 a beer and could potentially be a deal breaker 😀


Trystan

No Dave, they are not greater than sex!