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Recently my 10/22 would not fire every time so I took it all apart and cleaned everything and lubed it. It still wouldn't fired every time and I could not eject an unfired cartridge. What is wrong with some gunsmiths. Yesterday I took it to a 'smith. I asked him to replace the firing pin spring with a new one and replace the hook that pulls the unfired cartridge from the chamber. I didn't think I needed to tell him it has a custom match chamber. He called me today and told me it was ready. When I picked it up he told me the chamber was too tight so he reamed it out ! Say what? ! I told him I have fired hundreds if not thousands of rounds with it set up the way it was. He told me it was not right so he fixed it. I asked if he installed the new hook and spring. He told me they were fine and charged me $50.
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Recently my 10/22 would not fire every time so I took it all apart and cleaned everything and lubed it. It still wouldn't fired every time and I could not eject an unfired cartridge. What is wrong with some gunsmiths. Yesterday I took it to a 'smith. I asked him to replace the firing pin spring with a new one and replace the hook that pulls the unfired cartridge from the chamber. I didn't think I needed to tell him it has a custom match chamber. He called me today and told me it was ready. When I picked it up he told me the chamber was too tight so he reamed it out ! Say what? ! I told him I have fired hundreds if not thousands of rounds with it set up the way it was. He told me it was not right so he fixed it. I asked if he installed the new hook and spring. He told me they were fine and charged me $50. Considering how f'ked up most of your gunsmithing is, he is likely right and you are wrong...again. That "hook" is called an extractor.
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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Ream out the tight chamber on my unit, and one has just purchased himself a rifle. I'll be doing the charging.
This has to be tongue in cheek.
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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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He also said it 'wouldn't eject.....' The 'hook' (extractor) "extracts", the case. It does not 'eject' the case.. That's the 'ejector's' job.. Replacing the extractor will not necessarily cure an ejection problem..
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The little hook that pulls the unfired cartridge would not pull the unfired cartridge out of the chamber. It also would not fire most of the time. There was no problem with the chamber since I fired several bricks through the rifle prior to the recent problem? Why would a 'smith cut the chamber with the requests of put a new hook in and new striker spring in?
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Ringman: I have three friends who have had their "match chambered" re-barreled Ruger 10/22's "worked on". The work was to alleviate sporadic fail to extract and fail to eject problems. And that "work" was "cut the chamber" or more specifically using a standard chamber reamer to ever so slightly "open up the chamber". ALL of these three friends now enjoy more reliable extraction and ejection! I hope you do NOT notice any diminishment of accuracy with your now opened up 10/22. None of my three friends have complained of a loss in accuracy - but they are all Ground Squirrel Hunters and they may or may not have tested/compared the results (before and after)? I can not comment on the gunsmiths action in doing something you did not clearly authorize (i.e. you may have said to him something like "make it work" and he may have thought that was the correct action to take to get to your stated goal?). I do recall two of my friends paying $30.00 for the specified "chamber opening" they wanted. I feel lucky when I now have a local "gunsmith" who will do things like this. Before I had to drive 145 miles south of here (each way!) to get to an ol'timey gunsmith who would work on minor ailments of lesser valued arms! Sorry you are displeased but I am hoping for good results in accuracy and in extraction/ejection. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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The little hook that pulls the unfired cartridge would not pull the unfired cartridge out of the chamber. It also would not fire most of the time. There was no problem with the chamber since I fired several bricks through the rifle prior to the recent problem? Why would a 'smith cut the chamber with the requests of put a new hook in and new striker spring in? Please tell me you weren't shooting Remingtons out of it when you started having problems. A buddy of mine also had a custom barrel with a tight chamber. Remington 22LRs did the same thing as you describe. He had zero problems with CCI.
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The little hook that pulls the unfired cartridge would not pull the unfired cartridge out of the chamber. It also would not fire most of the time. There was no problem with the chamber since I fired several bricks through the rifle prior to the recent problem? Why would a 'smith cut the chamber with the requests of put a new hook in and new striker spring in? That's called an "extractor". Does the rifle work now? What ammunition were you using?
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VarmintGuy, Thanks for the encouragement. As soon as the weather breaks here I will take it to the range. The little hook that pulls the unfired cartridge would not pull the unfired cartridge out of the chamber. It also would not fire most of the time. There was no problem with the chamber since I fired several bricks through the rifle prior to the recent problem? Why would a 'smith cut the chamber with the requests of put a new hook in and new striker spring in? Please tell me you weren't shooting Remingtons out of it when you started having problems. A buddy of mine also had a custom barrel with a tight chamber. Remington 22LRs did the same thing as you describe. He had zero problems with CCI. I've been shooting Remington Yellow Jackets. I can depend on five shot 5/8" groups at 50 yards. I use this one for ground squirrels. I have enough targets to compare the before and after.
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VarmintGuy, Thanks for the encouragement. As soon as the weather breaks here I will take it to the range. The little hook that pulls the unfired cartridge would not pull the unfired cartridge out of the chamber. It also would not fire most of the time. There was no problem with the chamber since I fired several bricks through the rifle prior to the recent problem? Why would a 'smith cut the chamber with the requests of put a new hook in and new striker spring in? Please tell me you weren't shooting Remingtons out of it when you started having problems. A buddy of mine also had a custom barrel with a tight chamber. Remington 22LRs did the same thing as you describe. He had zero problems with CCI. I've been shooting Remington Yellow Jackets. I can depend on five shot 5/8" groups at 50 yards. I use this one for ground squirrels. I have enough targets to compare the before and after. Remington YJs are one of the most variable lot-to-lot .22s out there, in bullet weight, powder, and case dimensions. They won't even load in two of my .22s about 1/2 the time, whereas most other stuff (CCIs, Federal, Wolf, and Eley) have no problems at all.
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Remington YJs = cheap Walmart GARBAGE, PARTICULARLY in Bentz or match chambers.
Sloppy chambers rule ?
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Rich, which gunsmith? I have a rifle at a smith in GP getting rebarreled. Hopefully not the same one!
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I'd not do a match chamber in a semi-auto.
Have a bolt action Anschutz and regardless of ammo, one can not extract a loaded round by cycling the bolt. It has to be fired before one can eject a cartridge. A very accurate ground squirrel rifle.
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So, does the rifle work now or not?
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Match chambered 10-22 barrels I have installed came with a warning that they will not allow extraction of unfired ammo. Recutting the chamber with a standard reamer is the fix if that is what is desired.
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I like the bentz chamber for the .22lr 10/22
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I took it to the range. Before the "repair" it would regularly fire five Yellow Jackets into 5/8". After the "repair" it will fire five Yellow Jackets into a patter of 5".
By the way, Kp321, this rifle had a modified extractor that extracted unfired rounds and just wore out.
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