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Will keep an eye on that site, that makes them reasonable. $40 for 50 is just not worth it to me. Why I quit using them a few years back.
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I have been using the 165gr TTSX in the 30-06 for moose, caribou, and deer for several years and really like the way it works and the fact it does not tear up nearly as much meat as jacketed bullets when shot through shoulders... I thought you recommended light for caliber TTSX's?
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For a deer load consider working up to 59gr of 4350 behind a 165gr NBT.
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I like 150s for deer out of a 308. The only exception is PA deer. They are way too tough for a 308.
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The last several elk I took, fell to your basic 165 gr Rem CoreLokt. Basic works - fancy is not necessary.
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Which ever one shoots the best. Had a Sako 270, would not shoot boat tail bullets well at all. Sub inch groups with flat base bullets.
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For a deer load consider working up to 59gr of 4350 behind a 165gr NBT. I've been using 'almost' the same load in the 06 a long time. Almost -- H 205 not 4350. The bullets have always performed extremely well for me. Vel. is 2925--50 depending on lot. Jerry
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The Barnes 130 TTSX pretty much replicates 180 CoreLokt performance, IME.
With a lot flatter trajectory and a lot less recoil.
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The last several elk I took, fell to your basic 165 gr Rem CoreLokt. Basic works - fancy is not necessary. About 1/2 the elk I have killed with a rifle fell to the 'deadliest mushroom in the woods'. That was back before I found out they were crap and would not kill anything.......lol
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The web sight called terminal ballistics research, out of New Zealand puts out a lot of comparative performance observations on the different bullets. My experience with " blemished" or seconds has been they do not weigh what they are supposed to. So if I use seconds I will sort the bullets by weight and then group them in batches of similar weights to get loaded together. I often wonder just how big of a savings they really are if there are three or four groups of different weighted bullets out of 50 bullets.
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About 1/2 the elk I have killed with a rifle fell to the 'deadliest mushroom in the woods'. That was back before I found out they were crap and would not kill anything.......lol
Funny how that works, ain't it ? Jerry
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For a deer load consider working up to 59gr of 4350 behind a 165gr NBT. Used that exact load from my .30-06 this past season on bear, antelope, mule deer and cow elk. Everything fell quickly. No problems at all. Very accurate, very lethal. It's a bit over 2900 fps. 165 Nosler Ballistic Tip worked out GREAT on all four animals. Regards, Guy
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I don't shoot my 30.06 much lately, but I found that Sierra's 165gr BTSP would shoot to almost the same POI as the Nosler 165gr Partition out to 400 yards or so. That meant I could use the cheaper Sierra bullet steel banging, deer and antelope, then using the Partitions for elk. Finally though, I used the Partition for all my hunting and the Sierras for targets etc. I still do the same thing only now with my 280AI and 160gr Sierra/Partition combo.
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About 1/2 the elk I have killed with a rifle fell to the 'deadliest mushroom in the woods'. That was back before I found out they were crap and would not kill anything.......lol And here I always thought . . .
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The more I read here I'm thankful for the not so tough version of elk we have in NM. The last several elk I took, fell to your basic 165 gr Rem CoreLokt. Basic works - fancy is not necessary.
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Most devestating deer bullets I ever used were the 150 and the 165 Sierra BTSP gamekings. the 165 sierra game king BTSP is the most unreliable bullet I"ve ever encountered in a 30-06 round... Does anything from almost blow up inside to not expand at all. I"d never use that one again... FWIW. Have had the same experience with .284 gameking 160 btsp in a 7x300...
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Shot one elk and 2 deer with 180gr SST's and another deer with 150 SST's they all blew up. The old interlocks work great, not sure what it is with that plastic tip but it sure makes the SST's grenade. Others may like them but I don't care to mess with them anymore.
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Hi! Think you could try 165 Accubonds and might not have to switch back to 180 anythings. Not much wrong with the Sierra and Hornady from an '06, however. Try 57 gr IMR 4350, or 58 of H-4350. Rl-17 and Hunter are also good. The old Springfield is mighty good at a whole lot of things, and I, for one don't see the accuracy issues that some people claim it lacks. This is true with several rifles.
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