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#11729383 - 01/11/17 Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? [Re: Swampman700]
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Originally Posted By Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


I'm betting that this meets the definition of fake news.
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#11729419 - 01/11/17 Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? [Re: BayouRover]
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Originally Posted By BayouRover
Originally Posted By Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


I'm betting that this meets the definition of fake news.


Oh dear God! I was sort of hoping that Swampman700 had gone the way of Savage99 or Lee24! eek sick
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#11729452 - 01/11/17 Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? [Re: Swampman700]
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Originally Posted By Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


Why make a statement and apologize in the same breath? You didn't offend anyone.
Although, your statement is incorrect. CRF was used in military bolt rifles for a good reason.

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#11730067 - 01/11/17 Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? [Re: DaSakoMan]
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Love my Sako 75 in .260. Was always a Remington fan until (and still am). However, the Sako is svelte in feeding and extraction. Much more positive than my Remington.

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#11730516 - 01/11/17 Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? [Re: ldg397]
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ldg397
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I had a Sako 85 greywolf, terrific rifle but not controlled round feed and same as some other posters all ejected rounds hit the scope and fell back in the action jamming it every time.


VaHillbilly
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......and almost every one Of my Sako 30-06 action length rifles had the very common ejection problems ( hitting the scope )


Winchestermodel70
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Took a 75 in .300 Win on safari about 10 years ago. Had ejection problems with the empty round hitting the scope and falling back into the action. Decided to use my .416 for everything for the remainder of the safari and sold the 75 upon my return.


Had a 85 Finnlight 30-06 did the same thing. No problem to duplicate it. Customer service wouldn't even admit it was a problem. Went round and round with them. Told me they couldn't guarantee every possible scope and mount combination that customers use would work. Mine was a 1" tube Zeiss with medium Leupold rings. But they couldn't guarantee that would work. Told me the rifle was tested with no scope and that was the extent of the warranty. Have the emails to back it up.

The ejector on these rifles is at the 6 o'clock position on the bolt face. Dead at the bottom. Just like a Winchester 94 that's designed to kick the case out the top of the action. Works just fine for that. But makes it hard for the extractor at about 10 o'clock (IIRC) to pull the case out before the case mouth hits the bottom of the scope. When that happens the extractor loses it's hold on the cartridge rim, and with the bolt still moving to the rear the ejector pushes the case head out the bottom of the extractor. Almost like it's made to do that. Very bad design. Wouldn't begin to consider using such a thing against critters that bite and claw or even in an area where they live.

Seems only the long action is affected. Short cartridges must have just enough room. But it't the last Sako/Beretta I'll buy more so because of the lack of concern and honesty by customer service than anything else. YMMV


edit: Sent it down the road with full disclosure to somebody that figured it could be fixed.



Edited by shootem (01/11/17)
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#11730961 - 01/12/17 Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? [Re: Swampman700]
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Originally Posted By Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


CRFs have to be properly adjusted for the cartridge they're chambered for. Many are not, often the result, I suspect, of being rebarreled, but not adjusted. One reason for the big push for detachable mags is that the feed lips eliminate the need for adjusting, in other words, economy (cheapness).

I am okay with push-feed and Sako-style extractors, but plunger ejectors are a pain. Everyone seems to blame the position of the fixed ejector on the 85 for the problems. Lets hope they move it back. I'd like very much to have one of the 85s, but don't like DMs on a hunting rifle, so any Sakos in my future will probably be old ones. At least the Sako mags are flush.
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#11731027 - 01/12/17 Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? [Re: Deflagrate]
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Originally Posted By Deflagrate
Originally Posted By Swampman700
The crf is going to hurt your accuracy and malfunctions as much or more than a non-crf. I'm just sayin'.


Why make a statement and apologize in the same breath? You didn't offend anyone.
Although, your statement is incorrect. CRF was used in military bolt rifles for a good reason.


Why are you guys responding to a five year old post? crazy

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#11731130 - 01/12/17 Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? [Re: dogcatcher223]
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Originally Posted By dogcatcher223
The only thing that puzzles me about Sako is this...for that price, why an injected plastic stock?


My first Sako was an 85 Finnlight. With its plastic stock it shot as good as it does now with its custom stock. I could swap stocks at will with no shift in accuracy. Some will criticize the factory stock. But, not all injection molded stocks are cheap junk.
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#11731165 - 01/12/17 Re: Sako 75 and 85 - over-rated?? [Re: devnull]
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Originally Posted By devnull

Sakos might have a crummy synthetic stock but I point it at critters while hunting and they fall over dead.


Wow! That would really save on load development.
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