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Many years ago with the old "screw machine" Partitions, I had a tough time of getting decent accuracy.
Didn't use Partitions for a number of years, then tried some 100's from my good ol' 6mm Rem. Oh my goodness! No problem beating 1 MOA.
So, the past 20 years or so, I've used a lot of Partitions. They're good. Work with 'em. I noted no real problem achieving acceptable results with several different rifles & cartridges.
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I've had good luck with Partitions accuracy(1.5" or smaller) in the .308 win, 270 win, 6.5X55, 300 RUM, 338 Win, 9.3X62. About the only thing that I had that wouldn't shoot NP's that well were my 270 and 340 MkVs. Small sample size there, I realize. YMMV
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I have had partitions shoot MOA and under in 257 Roberts, 257AI, 250 Savage, 25-06, 257 Weatherby, 6,5x55, 6,5 Rem Mag, 6.5 Creed, 6.5-06, 6.5-284, 270, 7x57, 7 Rem Mag, 280, 300 Savage and 300 Weatherby rifles over the years. I am sure there were others, but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head....
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I've found rifles either like Partitions, or they don't! No middle ground. Most of my rifles like partitions, but my Remington 7-08 CDL and my Sub M.O.A. Vanguard 257 Roy shoot patterns, not groups. Went thru the different powder/ seating depth/ charge to no avail. However, they both love Accubonds. Problem solved.
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I guess I have been lucky oldotter....
I can't remember any rifles that didn't like the partitions, but several had custom barrels on trued actions and were bedded.
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I guess I have been lucky oldotter....
I can't remember any rifles that didn't like the partitions, but several had custom barrels on trued actions and were bedded. Nothing unusual there...
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I think a bit of clarification is needed with Partitions. I've had few rifles where they were the most accurate bullet. In most situations they aren't. It depends on your purposes. I'll take 1.5" Partition groups over a subMOA 'non-premium' bullet everyday and twice on Sunday. It's more important what happens when the bullet arrives than it getting there fractions of an inch closer to the center of the target. Use 400 yards as an example. A 1.5" Partition will land bullets within 0.75" of aim point at 100, 1.5 at 200, 2.25 at 300, 3 at 400. A 0.5" gun does 0.25, 0.5, 0.75, 1.0 at same distances. Basically you gain 2" closer to your true aim point. Even deer lungs will catch a 1.5" Partition at 400 yards. Caribou, elk, moose make it certain. And that's all predicated on 1.5" Partitions. I can normally get them to 1 MOA without much problem.
Bottom line: I'll take terminal performance inside the animal and not sweat that I could have been an inch or 2 'closer' to the center of the lungs. You put a Partition anywhere close to the middle of the lungs, get the knife out.
A couple tricks. Try a slightly faster powder, try seating them at 0.010, 0.020, 0.040. Most of my loads all Ito one of those groupings. +1 on this
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If Nosler made a better selection of Protected Point Partitions, I would have little reason to shoot anything but Partitions in .243 and up.
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I think a bit of clarification is needed with Partitions. I've had few rifles where they were the most accurate bullet. In most situations they aren't. It depends on your purposes. I'll take 1.5" Partition groups over a subMOA 'non-premium' bullet everyday and twice on Sunday. It's more important what happens when the bullet arrives than it getting there fractions of an inch closer to the center of the target. Use 400 yards as an example. A 1.5" Partition will land bullets within 0.75" of aim point at 100, 1.5 at 200, 2.25 at 300, 3 at 400. A 0.5" gun does 0.25, 0.5, 0.75, 1.0 at same distances. Basically you gain 2" closer to your true aim point. Even deer lungs will catch a 1.5" Partition at 400 yards. Caribou, elk, moose make it certain. And that's all predicated on 1.5" Partitions. I can normally get them to 1 MOA without much problem.
Bottom line: I'll take terminal performance inside the animal and not sweat that I could have been an inch or 2 'closer' to the center of the lungs. You put a Partition anywhere close to the middle of the lungs, get the knife out.
A couple tricks. Try a slightly faster powder, try seating them at 0.010, 0.020, 0.040. Most of my loads all Ito one of those groupings. +1 on this You beat me to it.
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When I went elk hunting for the first time (now 22 yr ago) I started using Nitrex ammo. The 7mm RM loads had a 175 gr Swift A frame bullet. All I can say is it's a darn shame they don't make that stuff anymore!
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I thought the Nitrex ammo was Speer?
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Now don't go confusing things with facts....
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Often Partitions will shoot more accurately if you go to a faster-burning powder. Try one step down from whatever burning rate you are currently running if they won't shoot.
They seem to need a kick in the butt to make them work well.
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I thought the Nitrex ammo was Speer? Yes, with the Grandslam bullets.
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Thanks for the info, everyone.
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interesting feedback. I wish my experience had been more like BSA's.
I've found Accubonds relatively easy to load, and good on terminal performance (sample size: one 5x6 bull, broadside at 19 yards, which I could have killed cleanly with a .357 revolver.....).
I would just "prefer" to find a great load in the Partition, and feel a little more certain of an exit hole.
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More "partitions don't shoot"..... I love these threads 270-130 300 yards field prone. OOooppss! Pulled one. 7 Mag 160....tsk tsk
Last edited by BobinNH; 01/19/17.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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More "partitions don't shoot"..... 270-130 300 yards field prone. Well, I guess that would be OK
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Scotty if your rifle won't do any better than 2-3 inches for 3-5 shot groups at 100 yards it should be blatantly obvious that there is something wrong with the rifle. Penetration anyone?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yeah, I haven't found a rifle yet that can't be worked under an 1"... That's with plain old Hornady, Winchester, etc sorta brass with regular old FL sizing dies and seaters..
Most of them do much better as well.
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