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Without seeing the exact wording of the questions it's just not possible to tell if a given poll is accurate. It's way to easy to get the results you want just by changing the wording of the question.

I did get contacted for a poll once. At the end they said something about seeing if it meet their "requirements". If it did they would call back. Still haven't gotten the call.

I know that there is a core here that's thrilled with what's coming. I am not. I'm not a big poll believer but I do believe many Americans do think Trump is a horse's a**. Count me among them. This will be my last opportunity to say that for four years because I was raised during the time that you didn't denigrate the President because of the office he held. Respect the office and hope for the best possible from the man who occupied it. Tomorrow Trump will be our President and I will observe that.

I did not vote for Trump and could not vote for Clinton. I had to vote for Jill Stein because the two main party choices were so undesirable. As an outdoorsman the health of our environment is important to me. If we really did want change we missed our opportunity. Now we'll get to see what the 1%ers will do for the working American. I think we're about to get a lesson in "Be careful of what you wish for because it might come true."

We'll probably never know if the majority of Americans were for Trump or not, we do know with certainty that the majority of voters weren't. He did win what counts, some states by a very narrow margin, and that's what counts so he will be president. Trump is not a stupid man and the DNC deserved the loss they got. They have no one to blame but themselves.

I hope I'm proven wrong but I think it's likely that we're going to end up with an administration that over the next four years makes President Obama look reasonably good. Since President Obama took office unemployment is down nearly by half (his predecessor manipulated the numbers as well), the stock market is at a near all time high even without the bump since the election, and we've experienced the longest period of economic growth since the late 1930s or 40s even if it wasn't felt by all Americans. I don't like the near doubling of the national debt or his foreign policy failures.

Now we'll get to see what the incoming Republicans will do, they own it all and will have to own it all. One of the best things is that we as Americans are resilient. We've survived poor presidents before (President "W." Bush or President Obama, take your pick). We'll survive this one or I'll be proven wrong which I hope to be. We'll see.

Before the haters get started: I'm not stupid (college degree), I'm not gay (married to a great woman for many years and not closeted), and I'm not unpatriotic (honorably retired after a military career and held public office, two terms, as a Republican before becoming Independent).

If any of you have a long enough memory, I don't, I honestly hope to have to "eat crow" on this in four years.

Best to you all and to America.

Frank

You lost me when you said you voted for Jill Stein. That's all I needed to know about you. Thanks for the head's up.

You're welcome. Not many other choices.

Good God...

Yup, and we know how accurate they were.

I think the unemployment rate is at least double what Obongo says it is.

And probably double what "W" said it was. Makes the math the same.

And probably double what "W" said it was. Makes the math the same.

You're an idiot

Rather disturbing to think that Jill Stein was an option!?!?


But in a day and a wakeup I'll be singing.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb_g4jkPqUw&feature=youtu.be

does that make me a racist!!!!

Didn't mean to offend you.

You didn't. You just proved whether or not you should be taken seriously. An "outdoorsman" that voted for Stein warrants no real consideration.

Muffin, It doesn't make you a racist.

Crossfireopps, You're right I'm an idiot. You win.

4ager, I'd counter that an outdoorsman who supports a candidate that thinks the unchecked release of CO2 from burning fossil fuels is justified by economic gain alone is turning their back on the legacy we owe the future generations of outdoorsmen and women.

If you haven't read about ocean acidification as a result of atmospheric CO2 it's worth looking at. Though it seems like anything in "the mainstream media" is automatically discounted here, it was released today that 2016 was the hottest year on record for the third consecutive year. There is plenty of information available from a variety of sources other than "main stream media." If you already believe it's a hoax then I'm not going to change your mind though.

Clinton and Trump were non starters for me as was not voting. Who would you have voted for?

Pay no attention to what the man behind the curtain says.

The old saying is that there are three kinds of lies, But I've come to the conclusion there are four: "Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics and now Polls."

You have GOT to be schidtting us all. You consume all that swill they serve as "information" without wondering why we are always in the midst of some crisis that requires us to give up our personal and economic freedom? And you never wonder at the fact that IPCC was caught red-handed manipulating data---why would they do that if the data supported the conclusion? If you cannot think beyond what the MSM tells you, then you truly ARE an idiot.

They dug up this approval rating from Moocheles bhutt!
Lyin' bastid can't be gone soon enough for me!