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I'm starting to warm up to the 45 super. I'd debated a 10mm, but after recent discussions and considering I'm already set up for loading and casting 45 it just seems to make more sense.
I'm considering a Glock 21, but what other good or better options are out there? My preference is for a double stack striker fired pistol.
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Another alternative. HK USP Full Size -- Not "striker fired" but it is a double stack (12+1) with double/single action and cocked/locked capability (safety can be used or not with hammer down (double action) or hammer cocked. After thorough research, it appears that the USP 45 is capable of continuous use of 45 Super level loads. My son had been carrying the Glock 20. Neither of us felt/feel comfortable carrying the Glock with one in the chamber, so were looking for an alternative. The USPs “long” double action first shot and thumb safety (if desired) with the .45 Super load fit the bill. Tried the Buffalo Bore 230s and 255s along with several hand loads, finally settling on a hand load using new Starline .45 Super brass and Nosler 230gr JFPs at 1,100 fps. With 12 +1 capacity, it is reliable, portable, reasonably powerful and quite controllable. If anyone is interested, here’ a link covering the subject pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?16503-HK-USP-45-field-pistol. Still a work in progress and will be testing 250gr LFNGCs (sized .451) from MT Bullet Works as time allows. https://www.montanabulletworks.com/product/45-colt-lbt-250gr-lfn_gc/FWIW, Paul
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1911 set up correctly is hard to beat. I even shoot some in a lightweight full size. A 250 at a thousand feet per second is pretty handy on the mountain
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Neither of us felt/feel comfortable carrying the Glock with one in the chamber, so were looking for an alternative. Sorry, but that's ridiculous.
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Neither of us felt/feel comfortable carrying the Glock with one in the chamber, so were looking for an alternative. Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Feelings are exactly that and are not ridiculous to those that feel that way.
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Another alternative. HK USP Full Size -- Not "striker fired" but it is a double stack (12+1) with double/single action and cocked/locked capability (safety can be used or not with hammer down (double action) or hammer cocked. After thorough research, it appears that the USP 45 is capable of continuous use of 45 Super level loads. My son had been carrying the Glock 20. Neither of us felt/feel comfortable carrying the Glock with one in the chamber, so were looking for an alternative. The USPs “long” double action first shot and thumb safety (if desired) with the .45 Super load fit the bill. Tried the Buffalo Bore 230s and 255s along with several hand loads, finally settling on a hand load using new Starline .45 Super brass and Nosler 230gr JFPs at 1,100 fps. With 12 +1 capacity, it is reliable, portable, reasonably powerful and quite controllable. If anyone is interested, here’ a link covering the subject pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?16503-HK-USP-45-field-pistol. Still a work in progress and will be testing 250gr LFNGCs (sized .451) from MT Bullet Works as time allows. https://www.montanabulletworks.com/product/45-colt-lbt-250gr-lfn_gc/FWIW, Paul The HK USP is a very strong pistol that is not fazed by 45 Supers.
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Neither of us felt/feel comfortable carrying the Glock with one in the chamber, so were looking for an alternative. Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Feelings are exactly that and are not ridiculous to those that feel that way. That's the problem with making decisions based on feelings instead of logic. That's what the liberal SJW types do; I'd hope most here are above that.
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Neither of us felt/feel comfortable carrying the Glock with one in the chamber, so were looking for an alternative. Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Feelings are exactly that and are not ridiculous to those that feel that way. That's the problem with making decisions based on feelings instead of logic. That's what the liberal SJW types do; I'd hope most here are above that. Sidearms are as personal a choice as anything. He ain't saying he doesn't feel comfortable carrying, only that he ain't comfortable carrying a Glock. So, he'll carry something else.
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Neither of us felt/feel comfortable carrying the Glock with one in the chamber, so were looking for an alternative. Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Feelings are exactly that and are not ridiculous to those that feel that way. That's the problem with making decisions based on feelings instead of logic. That's what the liberal SJW types do; I'd hope most here are above that. A man should be able to carry the type of weapon he is comfortable with, I fail to see how that falls into liberal logic.
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Neither of us felt/feel comfortable carrying the Glock with one in the chamber, so were looking for an alternative. Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Feelings are exactly that and are not ridiculous to those that feel that way. That's the problem with making decisions based on feelings instead of logic. That's what the liberal SJW types do; I'd hope most here are above that. A man should be able to carry the type of weapon he is comfortable with, I fail to see how that falls into liberal logic. Good grief people. I commented about the "not carrying one in the chamber". You guys are all over that in other threads, but in this one it makes sense? SMH I didn't say it's ridiculous to not carry a Glock; I don't care what brand he carries. It is ridiculous to "feel" that a Glock shouldn't be carried with a round in the chamber; that's an emotion based in ignorance, not rational facts.
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He only said that he didn't feel comfortable carrying a Glock with a round in the chamber. That's why he was looking for a different platform. I don't see the problem.
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I'm starting to warm up to the 45 super. I'd debated a 10mm, but after recent discussions and considering I'm already set up for loading and casting 45 it just seems to make more sense.
I'm considering a Glock 21, but what other good or better options are out there? My preference is for a double stack striker fired pistol. Take a look at this web site first. Further along the learning curve than the "Super". https://www.460rowland.com/
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There are several reasons for not carrying a Glock of any kind with a round in the chamber. Nothing "ridiculous" about it - I wouldn't do it, either.
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It's more of a training issue if your not comfortable carrying a round in the chamber of a Glock or any firearm for that matter.
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I carry 'hot' Glock, in a Serpa when I'm carrying open (out of town).
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Back on topic, is shooting 45 Super as simple as a barrel and recoil spring swap on the HK USP 45 and Glock 21?
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There are several reasons for not carrying a Glock of any kind with a round in the chamber. Nothing "ridiculous" about it - I wouldn't do it, either.
Mike Also from "Mikewriter" "PERSONALLY, the Glock imaginary safety system scares me. I don't want a gun making decisions for me that should be under my control. If I had kept my Glock, it would have been sent in for a similar operation. Glock DID make a pistol with a manual safety at one time, I think. To me, those who worry about taking a manual safety OFF before needing to shoot are the ones afraid of their guns." I hate those Glocks that think for themselves, instead of being inanimate objects. Not to mention the "Imaginary safeties"..
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Back on topic, is shooting 45 Super as simple as a barrel and recoil spring swap on the HK USP 45 and Glock 21? No need for a barrel swap, I've shot 45 Super in my USP with the stock spring without issue. I installed a heavier Wolfe recoil spring and the USP would barely cycle with 45 ACP +P's and I doubt that it would cycle standard 45 ACP with the heavier spring. I'm not sure that the USP needs the heavier recoil spring. The HK USP is very accurate in my experience.
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Now you got me thinking about a 45 Super in an HK double stack, THANKS! 
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Now you got me thinking about a 45 Super in an HK double stack, THANKS! You are more than welcome!
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