What I find interesting is that many consider a standard government model 1911 as no big deal to conceal, yet poo poo the idea of carrying a G17 or the slightly larger G34.
I have yet to find a centerfire handgun as easy to shoot well, when combining speed and accuracy, as a G34.
In the pure accuracy department, a well built 1911 gets the nod (for me),but when it comes to speed shooting, the G34 has proven to be an exceptional piece.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
In the case on my G34, the barrel had a bit of play in it while in battery, so it was not what I would expect for a quality target/hunting gun. Perfectly fine for a service pistol, and was completely reliable. Sample of one, of course. I sold it to a member here after letting him try it, and the last I knew he was still happy with it.
What I find interesting is that many consider a standard government model 1911 as no big deal to conceal, yet poo poo the idea of carrying a G17 or the slightly larger G34.
The Glock 17 is my daily carry. Has been since summer. I have a couple of 19s, always figuring that I'd eventually switch to them, but as yet I see zero down side to the 17. I shoot it better, too. I guess the 19 prints ever so slightly less, but when zero printing becomes a top priority, I find that I'm more likely to switch out for a 43 rather than a 19. I guess if I could only ever have one concealed carry gun, it would be a 19. Fortunately, that's not the case.
Deflave: What you are NOT considering in your contention is that its NOT just the strapping of a pistol to a duty belt! Then once its strapped there you have to live, work, sit in a car, sit in witness chairs, run with it, fight with it, swim with it, wrestle people with it, draw it from the holster as quick as possible etc etc etc. I did the above for 3 decades - so's I know! I switched (at my own personal expense by the way) from a 4" barreled pistol to a 6" barreled pistol - that switch lasted about a year. I even tried carrying that 6" barreled pistol "cross-draw" for a while. I went back to the shorter "sight-radiused" pistol and was happy I did. You would not think 2" in length and a few ounces more would make a difference enough so's one would go back to the shorter barrel length but for me it did. As well as some of my cohorts. Indeed the weight and longer sight radius of the longer barreled pistols made a slight difference in qualifying scores for me and others but often it was not worth the "hassles". Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Deflave: What you are NOT considering in your contention is that its NOT just the strapping of a pistol to a duty belt! Then once its strapped there you have to live, work, sit in a car, sit in witness chairs, run with it, fight with it, swim with it, wrestle people with it, draw it from the holster as quick as possible etc etc etc. I did the above for 3 decades - so's I know! I switched (at my own personal expense by the way) from a 4" barreled pistol to a 6" barreled pistol - that switch lasted about a year. I even tried carrying that 6" barreled pistol "cross-draw" for a while. I went back to the shorter "sight-radiused" pistol and was happy I did. You would not think 2" in length and a few ounces more would make a difference enough so's one would go back to the shorter barrel length but for me it did. As well as some of my cohorts. Indeed the weight and longer sight radius of the longer barreled pistols made a slight difference in qualifying scores for me and others but often it was not worth the "hassles". Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
The six inch double action revolver was the standard police length till most cops started driving as opposed to walking their beats. The four inch was adopted due to discomfort while sitting in a car seat with the six inch barrel revolver.
The six inch double action revolver was the standard police length till most cops started driving as opposed to walking their beats. The four inch was adopted due to discomfort while sitting in a car seat with the six inch barrel revolver.
The middle ground, 5" is very hard to beat. Carries like a 4", handles like a 6".
Clark, shut your dirty mouth, you Perv.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
Deflave: What you are NOT considering in your contention is that its NOT just the strapping of a pistol to a duty belt! Then once its strapped there you have to live, work, sit in a car, sit in witness chairs, run with it, fight with it, swim with it, wrestle people with it, draw it from the holster as quick as possible etc etc etc. I did the above for 3 decades - so's I know! I switched (at my own personal expense by the way) from a 4" barreled pistol to a 6" barreled pistol - that switch lasted about a year. I even tried carrying that 6" barreled pistol "cross-draw" for a while. I went back to the shorter "sight-radiused" pistol and was happy I did. You would not think 2" in length and a few ounces more would make a difference enough so's one would go back to the shorter barrel length but for me it did. As well as some of my cohorts. Indeed the weight and longer sight radius of the longer barreled pistols made a slight difference in qualifying scores for me and others but often it was not worth the "hassles". Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Never considered that.
Thank you for sharing your experience as a LEO.
Dave
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
The six inch double action revolver was the standard police length till most cops started driving as opposed to walking their beats. The four inch was adopted due to discomfort while sitting in a car seat with the six inch barrel revolver.
The middle ground, 5" is very hard to beat. Carries like a 4", handles like a 6".
Clark, shut your dirty mouth, you Perv.
If only your lug was more fuller...
Dave
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Deflave: What you are NOT considering in your contention is that its NOT just the strapping of a pistol to a duty belt! Then once its strapped there you have to live, work, sit in a car, sit in witness chairs, run with it, fight with it, swim with it, wrestle people with it, draw it from the holster as quick as possible etc etc etc. I did the above for 3 decades - so's I know! I switched (at my own personal expense by the way) from a 4" barreled pistol to a 6" barreled pistol - that switch lasted about a year. I even tried carrying that 6" barreled pistol "cross-draw" for a while. I went back to the shorter "sight-radiused" pistol and was happy I did. You would not think 2" in length and a few ounces more would make a difference enough so's one would go back to the shorter barrel length but for me it did. As well as some of my cohorts. Indeed the weight and longer sight radius of the longer barreled pistols made a slight difference in qualifying scores for me and others but often it was not worth the "hassles". Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Never considered that.
Thank you for sharing your experience as a LEO.
Dave
Varmint Guy Congrats the first guy not to get a GFY
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Deflave: What you are NOT considering in your contention is that its NOT just the strapping of a pistol to a duty belt! Then once its strapped there you have to live, work, sit in a car, sit in witness chairs, run with it, fight with it, swim with it, wrestle people with it, draw it from the holster as quick as possible etc etc etc. I did the above for 3 decades - so's I know! I switched (at my own personal expense by the way) from a 4" barreled pistol to a 6" barreled pistol - that switch lasted about a year. I even tried carrying that 6" barreled pistol "cross-draw" for a while. I went back to the shorter "sight-radiused" pistol and was happy I did. You would not think 2" in length and a few ounces more would make a difference enough so's one would go back to the shorter barrel length but for me it did. As well as some of my cohorts. Indeed the weight and longer sight radius of the longer barreled pistols made a slight difference in qualifying scores for me and others but often it was not worth the "hassles". Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Never considered that.
Thank you for sharing your experience as a LEO.
Dave
Varmint Guy Congrats the first guy not to get a GFY
Hank
Oh, he got a GFY - in spades - but would need someone to draw him a picture to explain how.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.