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The owners will need to run a new estimate. You don't think they didn't already have that in their back pocket? Estimates will be made with contingencies, but typically not for products sourced from different vendors. Understood. So we're assuming that they didn't have the slightest inclination about this, say at some point after the 8th of November? Do you really think a project that was FID'd in 2009 estimated said cost post 9 November 2016? Maybe in the unlimited spend of the government on their projects. I'll bow to your vast knowledge of all things.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Campfire Oracle
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The owners will need to run a new estimate. You don't think they didn't already have that in their back pocket? Estimates will be made with contingencies, but typically not for products sourced from different vendors. Understood. So we're assuming that they didn't have the slightest inclination about this, say at some point after the 8th of November? Do you really think a project that was FID'd in 2009 estimated said cost post 9 November 2016? Maybe in the unlimited spend of the government on their projects. It's also quite obvious you don't understand the question from your response, which isn't surprising coming from an engineer. That said, when it comes to determining cost to lay pipe, you'd be the first I'd ask.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Silly [bleep] you still are. Tell me how a project is estimated?Move on Mr. Underachievement, E-nil.
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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My experience has probably not been same as EdM, but it's always cost me a helluva lot more to lay pipe, than I thought it was gonna cost.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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My experience has probably not been same as EdM, but it's always cost me a helluva lot more to lay pipe, than I thought it was gonna cost. I have been fortunate in that regard. 
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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Campfire Ranger
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Hopefully that means a bunch more refinery construction in Houston - which suits me just fine.
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I read in WSJ that over 100 new protestors were brought into Standing Rock over the weekend. They aren't giving up soon. It is going to get interesting.
HMmmmm, bus trip from D.C. to SR,....timings seems right. I'd like to ascertain just how many of em' were present, indeed perhaps even arrested in D.C. GTC Well, there was one that got taken off the Alaska Airlines plane in Atlanta I bet...
The only true cost of having a dog is its death.
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Campfire Ranger
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Keystone is routed to cross the Missouri 30 miles upstream from us.
Just up the creek from the Rez.
Just like DAPL.
I don't predict much for protests. Well, you could be famous. Why chase cows your whole life?!? Or, open a B&B for the protestors, and take them on farm tourist vacations. There's money in them their pockets, ya know.
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Heck, Sam. You could probably sell those prosestors cow patties as "Montana Pizzas".
That gumbo-mud-gob off a cow's hoof made it into the museum in Miles City after all.
Tell 'em it's "avante-gard". If I spelled that right.
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The only true cost of having a dog is its death.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Hopefully that means a bunch more refinery construction in Houston - which suits me just fine. Probably not, at least not because of this line. The expansions to refine this oil were done years ago and have been working with foreign crude, shipped in.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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My experience has probably not been same as EdM, but it's always cost me a helluva lot more to lay pipe, than I thought it was gonna cost. I concur. My pipe laying excursions have always come in over budget and under performed.
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are you guys talking about laying pipe or laying pipe.
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