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So if you are down 24 inches at 400 yards, how many MIL is that? No need to do math. Look through your scope. It has a measuring stick. But you already knew that, so I anticipate a rebuttal. LOL Gotcha. So obviously all MIL scopes have MIL reticles then. Thanks. This entire conversation/thread was prefaced with the notion that one's reticle and turrets match. That's the standard used today. If you're using a scope from 1983, with an MOA reticle and MRAD turrets then you're are probably a masochist. Didn't say that either. Wasn't aware that all MRAD turret scopes had MIL dot reticles, cuzz not all my MOA turret scopes have dot reticles. Is English your native language? I'm not asking that to pick a fight. Maybe something is getting lost in translation here...
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Hey FourT6 cool down a bit. Your the new guy here and the old boys are just messing with you. You stand to get a wealth of info from these guys but you need to jump through a few hoops to see if your a passerby or a serious guy.
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Anybody who has used both MOA and MRAD scopes extensively knows the advantages to both. Try using one of each for a while, and you'll see what myself and others are talking about...
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So if you are down 24 inches at 400 yards, how many MIL is that? Scott, If a guy actually misses by 24 inches (that is 2 feet or 61 centimeters for our European friends) at 400yds I hope we can all agree the unit of measurement in his reticle and adjustments was not the problem. Just Sayin. The smart fellows simply dialed to 400 and get a first round hit. Seems simple. 
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So if you are down 24 inches at 400 yards, how many MIL is that? This many. Travis
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I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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So if you are down 24 inches at 400 yards, how many MIL is that? Whats the MOA adjustment if you are 17 low at 527 yards? 
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I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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I realize that. I am assuming you didn't do the long division on the fly in your head though. Atleast I can't 
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I realize that. I am assuming you didn't do the long division on the fly in your head though. Atleast I can't 17 divided by 5.2 ain't long division.
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So if you are down 24 inches at 400 yards, how many MIL is that? Scott, If a guy actually misses by 24 inches (that is 2 feet or 61 centimeters for our European friends) at 400yds I hope we can all agree the unit of measurement in his reticle and adjustments was not the problem. Just Sayin. The smart fellows simply dialed to 400 and get a first round hit. Seems simple. But don't you got to start at the start? I have a rifle in one hand, a scope in the other. I slap the scope on the rifle. My box of ammo shows that I am 24" low at 400 yards with a 100 yard zero. I shoot and get on the paper at 100. Now I want to ring the steel at 400. How do I just simply dial, cuzz I don't know what to dial in. As I said, I don't know the math for MIL. I know if my box of ammo states that I am 24" low at 400 yards then I need to put my MOA dial to 6.
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1 Mil is 3.6" per 100 yards, so 14.4" per mil at 400 yards. If you were going to do it that way, it's simply 24 divided by 14.4, or about 1.6 Mil.
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1 Mil is 3.6" per 100 yards, so 14.4" per mil at 400 yards. If you were going to do it that way, it's simply 24 divided by 14.4, or about 1.6 Mil. Perfect.
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There is no math involved either way.
Your units could be in Cheeseburgers. It doesn't matter. If you see your shot missed left by 4.3 Cheeseburgers (using your reticle), you dial right or hold by 4.3 Cheeseburgers. Make your correction, pull the trigger. Done. Nowhere in that scenario was there any math or conversion or inches or centimeters.
I'm off by 4.3 cheeseburgers and I want to be at zero. 4.3 cheeseburgers minus 4.3 cheeseburgers equal (puts me at) zero. Vwalla! Math.
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I realize that. I am assuming you didn't do the long division on the fly in your head though. Atleast I can't 17 divided by 5.2 ain't long division. Haha ok.....
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Scroll down on the What's MOA web page for links to some of the best YouTube videos on the MOA/Mils subject featuring an experienced sniper team leader and sniper instructor.
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I just test drove some nosler rdf's. My target was at 745 yards away. I struck 1 full mil above my dope for the match burner I usually shoot.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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So if you are down 24 inches at 400 yards, how many MIL is that? Scott, If a guy actually misses by 24 inches (that is 2 feet or 61 centimeters for our European friends) at 400yds I hope we can all agree the unit of measurement in his reticle and adjustments was not the problem. Just Sayin. The smart fellows simply dialed to 400 and get a first round hit. Seems simple. But don't you got to start at the start? I have a rifle in one hand, a scope in the other. I slap the scope on the rifle. My box of ammo shows that I am 24" low at 400 yards with a 100 yard zero. I shoot and get on the paper at 100. Now I want to ring the steel at 400. How do I just simply dial, cuzz I don't know what to dial in. As I said, I don't know the math for MIL. I know if my box of ammo states that I am 24" low at 400 yards then I need to put my MOA dial to 6. Point taken. My inference was that a guy missed at 400yds by 2 feet and was trying to correct for another shot.
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