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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
or you can mull over minutiae and drive yourself to drink
If you aren't shooting competitively its really moot


Not really. Others might, but I wont. I like to think about things. I suppose some guys settle for the unknown, but I like to know why things happen.

I might agree with you if I only planned on taking shots at animals up to and around 100-150 yards. The fliers were not that bad at that distance. But further out I like to be responsible about shooting at game. As I said before, I plan to take shots up to 300 yards and I want better results than I was getting at 250 yards.

However, what it all boils down to is the load development process. If I had read or heard about how light weight rifles react in solid gun rests to begin with, I might not have used up so much of my components looking for a good load. Instead I would have been shooting stuff.

So, along with the other articles/threads/posts about others experiences with the same issue, I can add my experience for others to read. As I stated from the beginning, I like to try and give back/be helpful to those people and places I found help from myself. That is the main reason for posting so much detail.

There are enough threads with people coming in and bragging about things, or just coming in and asking questions. Not that they don't have a right or others don't want to read them - I just wanted to be different.

So I might not be shooting competition with this gun, but I gained a tremendous amount of insight from this experience to help me out if/when I do get a bench gun and potentially shoot competition.

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For sure I am. I always enjoy reaching a goal. I was not having fun when I couldn't explain the fliers, which made the recent discovery all the more exciting.

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Try IMR 4320 with a 140 gr bullet I get 2691 fps in a 18.5 in barrel.Plus it shoots good.

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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Find some Big Game powder.

Put 47.5 grains in a case with a Winchester Large Rifle Magnum primer.

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PS, I've never used Ramshot before, so was unaware BG was a ball powder. Given that the standard WLR was supposedly designed for the ball powders Winchester uses in their factory ammo, I'm curious why you opt for a WLRM. Just added security against a hangfire?


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Originally Posted by fremont
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Find some Big Game powder.

Put 47.5 grains in a case with a Winchester Large Rifle Magnum primer.

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PS, I've never used Ramshot before, so was unaware BG was a ball powder. Given that the standard WLR was supposedly designed for the ball powders Winchester uses in their factory ammo, I'm curious why you opt for a WLRM. Just added security against a hangfire?



Mule Deer (aka John Barsness) suggested it. And it works. Probably not necessary. I get 80 to 100 fps increase over CCI 200.






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Originally Posted by brucebruce
Try IMR 4320 with a 140 gr bullet I get 2691 fps in a 18.5 in barrel.Plus it shoots good.


I actually almost tried this powder. I have some on hand because I tried it in my 30-30 and did not like it. Then I found a really nice load for my sons 308 using it.

But I just do not see how the load I found with H414 is gonna be beat. Its holding super tight for the gun I am shooting. I think striving for half MOA is gonna be an exercise in frustration.

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Not sure if I mentioned it, but I am using S&B large rifle primers with this load. I have had really good luck with them in other guns so I decided to try them in this one. I think they are igniting the H414 quite well.

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Originally Posted by DLSguide
The best load I find for my finicky 7mm-08 Forbes is 120 gr Barnes TTxs with 47 gr H380 at a little over 3000 fps.Kills both Elk and deer excellent and never had a bullet stay in game. Fast becoming my favorite rifle and caliber.


Same here but with a 140 tsx!! No chronograph but per reloading manual should be near 2900. Got an elk hunt planned this October and hope to find a different powder, since H-380 is so temp sensitive.








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Originally Posted by DLALLDER
Originally Posted by DLSguide
The best load I find for my finicky 7mm-08 Forbes is 120 gr Barnes TTxs with 47 gr H380 at a little over 3000 fps.Kills both Elk and deer excellent and never had a bullet stay in game. Fast becoming my favorite rifle and caliber.


Same here but with a 140 tsx!! No chronograph but per reloading manual should be near 2900. Got an elk hunt planned this October and hope to find a different powder, since H-380 is so temp sensitive.


Have you tried Varget, H4350, or Big Game?


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