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Originally Posted by Sheister
As usual you make almost no sense . The rifle will pick the bullet. Whichever shoots best will work fine. All this talk about northern deer, southern deer, mule deer, white tails, etc.... is nonsense. No deer on this planet or any other planet is going to stand up to a well placed shot from either bullet.


Agreed, the rifle will pick. How ever the question was what one would you pick. If both Bullets shoot equally as well the 160 is the better choice.
How is that so hard to understand.

The OP did not say bullet Z shoots blank and bullet Y shoots blank which one should I use.
He ask of these two which one would be best. Of all the responses on this topic far less that half answered the question. But could not wait to throw their twist in and a jab to boot.

The whole north south question was to enquirer on what other game may be hunted with said load. But I made sure to answer the ops question. The rest is so the perfect azzholes here have something to get there panties in a bunch over. Trust me it made their day.

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Genus factor is strong in this one.

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Far from it. How ever I do really love his work. LOL.

Your style is very similar to his, he just has a more articulate vocabulary than you.


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Oh and just for your scrap book.

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That is was the president of the NRA. The first year I went to the Olin dinner. but you knew that right. Lol.
Stupid stuff like a northern deer is usually bigger than a southern deer and a hunter in the north might elk hunt or bear when a southern might not.


Freddy, were you in as part of the wait staff?
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😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂

I have a picture of my brother posing with Donald Trump too, that don't make him a billionaire any more than posing with Wayne makes you a ballistician.


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Originally Posted by montanabadger
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Oh and just for your scrap book.

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That is was the president of the NRA. The first year I went to the Olin dinner. but you knew that right. Lol.
Stupid stuff like a northern deer is usually bigger than a southern deer and a hunter in the north might elk hunt or bear when a southern might not.


Freddy, were you in as part of the wait staff?
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😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂

I have a picture of my brother posing with Donald Trump too, that don't make him a billionaire any more than posing with Wayne makes you a ballistician.





Funny you mention a ballistician, what if that was exactly what I did for about eight years. Lol. Would that change anything? Did not think so. LETs just say you are half right.

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PS can you have your brother tell Donald hi for me.

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Originally Posted by fredIII
Originally Posted by montanabadger
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Originally Posted by Higbean
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Oh and just for your scrap book.

[Linked Image]

That is was the president of the NRA. The first year I went to the Olin dinner. but you knew that right. Lol.
Stupid stuff like a northern deer is usually bigger than a southern deer and a hunter in the north might elk hunt or bear when a southern might not.


Freddy, were you in as part of the wait staff?
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😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂

I have a picture of my brother posing with Donald Trump too, that don't make him a billionaire any more than posing with Wayne makes you a ballistician.





Funny you mention a ballistician, what if that was exactly what I did for about eight years. Lol. Would that change anything? Did not think so. LETs just say you are half right.

👍🏼

PS can you have your brother tell Donald hi for me.


Were you involved with the BC numbers on the Accubond LR?


Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!

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No! but I can tell you that they are right on. Mike M, Mike L, and the gang are the best people you could ever hope to meet so think hard about the next jab. Nosler states that the g1 is developed using 100 yards. At 100 the BC is right. The g7 is supplied and spot on. Everyone in the know use g7 anyway for Long range. G1 are for the guys that think they know and like to see big numbers. It's actually silly to even post g1 as they error by as much as 12%. But it's an old standard and shooter don't like change. But you knew that right hig. Lol.

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I`ve killed only two W.T. with the 7mm 160 AB`s. One at 375, bullet hit the front shoulder, DRT, the second at 225 hit behind the front shoulder, deer went about 50 yrds. 7mm hole in, about a 1 inch hole out.
But we`ve, my son and I, have killed deer with this bullet in .25 cal, .30, and 8mm, had excellent results with the AB in all, plus they shoot excellent. Don`t think you could go wrong.

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Originally Posted by fredIII
No! but I can tell you that they are right on. Mike M, Mike L, and the gang are the best people you could ever hope to meet so think hard about the next jab. Nosler states that the g1 is developed using 100 yards. At 100 the BC is right. The g7 is supplied and spot on. Everyone in the know use g7 anyway for Long range. G1 are for the guys that think they know and like to see big numbers. It's actually silly to even post g1 as they error by as much as 12%. But it's an old standard and shooter don't like change. But you knew that right hig. Lol.


Is that right?

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Either one, G-1, G-7, is a tool. SHOOT the bullets to see..

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Good grief!!!! Generally speaking men of experience are experienced enouph to know NOT to toot there own horn. Simply share your experience without fondling and stroking yourself if at all possible. This thread has more D in hand than anything else.

If deer is all you hunt I'd probably go with the 140 as Bobin recommended especially considering a 400 yd limit. A load would easily be attainable where no turrets or LR reticles are necessary and crosshairs would never have to leave the critter.





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You were a ballistics expert for 8 years Fred?


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Expert no. Never got a saami lab. I will send a pm. You can choose to respond or not your call.

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We do have a few big deer here in SC. My largest over the last 39 years has been 240 lbs, 235 lbs and 226 lbs. I have probably taken another 10 or 12 that was at the 200 lb mark. Three of which are in the SC records program, highest scoring of mine was 150 2/8 net. We have the genes but with 14 weeks of open season and a liberal 11 total deer limit per hunter, most of our bucks don't make it to maturity. The ones that do become invisible during the day. I have night time trail cam pics of some bucks that would make your eyes bulge a little. We are going to have another B&C entry from the 2016 season, an 11 year old boy shot it about 10 miles from my house.
I've have gotten use to people that reply on forums that think someone is a novice just because they asked a simple question. I've been hand loading for 40+ years, I just want to hear others opinions. But not from someone that is a novice them self or has only a couple years of hunting experience. Like my father taught me when I was young, be careful what you say to strangers because you never know who they are, where they have been or what they know.

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Screw it all and shoot the 150 NBT.

And I'll take Brian Litz's measured calculations of the Accubond LR to the bank.


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Originally Posted by Kimber7man
Screw it all and shoot the 150 NBT.

And I'll take Brian Litz's measured calculations of the Accubond LR to the bank.


Brian is the smartest man I have ever had the pleasure of meeting and a joy to learn from.

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Originally Posted by fredIII
Originally Posted by Kimber7man
Screw it all and shoot the 150 NBT.

And I'll take Brian Litz's measured calculations of the Accubond LR to the bank.


Brian is the smartest man I have ever had the pleasure of meeting and a joy to learn from.


He is alot more on his game than them dipschidts at Nosler.

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Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!

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Your half right. hig you buy tickets to ththe NRA show yet.

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If you have a 7 mag, just point it in the general direction. It will kill whatever you are shooting at. It's that good. I like 140 ballistic tips. They kill deer just as well and are cheaper if you shoot a lot.

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P700 -
We slam Elk with 140 ABs.
ABL are a bit challenging to tune
and usually have negligible advantage
flying those distances.

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