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Little Dennis is actually more of a Communist that most. If he tells the truth, it's either by accident or because of some hidden agenda.
Flynn's phone call was possibly okay. Lying to Trump and Pence about it is unacceptable. If not for the leaks, they might have handled this in-house and kept him on board, but once that came out he was done, and rightly so. You can lie for your boss, but never to him.
The leakers in all departments need to be rooted out, fired if possible, prosecuted if possible, or transferred to the Ross Ice Shelf penguin-counting brigade if not. As for his "lying" to Trump, he said he didn't discuss policy. In a sense, this is true in that he was asked about policy, and said that they would be discussing that with them in the near future, but could not do so now. Is turning down a discussion of specific policy the same as discussing policy? That's a matter of semantics. He admits lying to ("misleading") the VPOTUS. Hasta.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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This Flynn crap is total BS. He was targeted for elimination by the (((globalists))). They want Trump isolated and thereby vulnerable to "guidance" by the neocons surrounding him and entrenched in the government. The globalists want no teaming up of powerful nationalist regimes against them. Like how you used the triple parentheses there. Has to be the (((JOOOOOOOOSSSS))) Who's pushing globalism? It's organized Jewry. Same folks behind other major, anti-western, well funded, pushes in history, such as Bolshevism.
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I think a lot of us have known this for a long time, but Trump seems to have flushed them out. It is pretty open and obvious now.
The bad thing is that we the American people will never have any way of knowing what is the truth on any situation. And you can't make informed decisions if you can't ascertain the truth.
In the end, this might be a positive development no matter what the outcome is here. In the old Soviet Union the KGB had no credibility with the people. Everyone knew that everything was a lie. I think everyone pretty much now realizes that our agencies are no different.
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Integrity appears to be fleeting if not already GONE from the Officer Corps. There were no laws broken or even "strained". As usual, the coverup is worse than the original sin. The big issue here is the publication of extremely sensitive, possibly Top Secret information. Since General Flynn is an American, whomever divulged his conversation to the press should have first gone to a Fed Judge, just to get the ball rolling. It appears this was not done and that is the big issue here. I guarantee you guys there were maybe six or seven people at most involved in this leak and I hope Trump moves quickly to stop this. The democrats are going to make crap up just to get the media going on brainwashing the public.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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This Flynn crap is total BS. He was targeted for elimination by the (((globalists))). They want Trump isolated and thereby vulnerable to "guidance" by the neocons surrounding him and entrenched in the government. The globalists want no teaming up of powerful nationalist regimes against them. Like how you used the triple parentheses there. Has to be the (((JOOOOOOOOSSSS))) Who's pushing globalism? It's organized Jewry. Same folks behind other major, anti-western, well funded, pushes in history, such as Bolshevism. Chriss' rabid anti-Semitism is odd for a wop, until you figure that his father never made the cash that the Jewish doctors in the same area/practice areas made, and that Chriss' family members that married Jewish and work with Jews are a Hell of a lot more successful at ... well, everything... than he is. His conspiracy ideations are simply envy.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Glad to see the regular kooks starting to move back the status quo anti positions. Makes me feel better about the world.
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Who told Churchill he was allowed to say any of that? He must have been a very bad man.
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Little Dennis is actually more of a Communist that most. If he tells the truth, it's either by accident or because of some hidden agenda.
Flynn's phone call was possibly okay. Lying to Trump and Pence about it is unacceptable. If not for the leaks, they might have handled this in-house and kept him on board, but once that came out he was done, and rightly so. You can lie for your boss, but never to him.
The leakers in all departments need to be rooted out, fired if possible, prosecuted if possible, or transferred to the Ross Ice Shelf penguin-counting brigade if not. If you watched that clip, you'd get that was exactly what Kucinich was saying. Wow. That's by far the most sense that little prick's ever made in the nearly 40 years I've been watching him. Way to go Denny.
What fresh Hell is this?
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Little Dennis is actually more of a Communist that most. If he tells the truth, it's either by accident or because of some hidden agenda.
Flynn's phone call was possibly okay. Lying to Trump and Pence about it is unacceptable. If not for the leaks, they might have handled this in-house and kept him on board, but once that came out he was done, and rightly so. You can lie for your boss, but never to him.
The leakers in all departments need to be rooted out, fired if possible, prosecuted if possible, or transferred to the Ross Ice Shelf penguin-counting brigade if not. If you watched that clip, you'd get that was exactly what Kucinich was saying. Wow. That's by far the most sense that little prick's ever made in the nearly 40 years I've been watching him. Way to go Denny. Exactly my take on it as well. When Kucinich is this right, the world is very much upside down.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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This was Obama's parting gift, getting even with Flynn for criticizing him and the Iran nuke deal. Obama left many land mines for President Trump and every so often one goes off.
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"This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." Tsk, tsk.
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I've seen Kucinich speak the truth as he sees it before. He is not a hopeless partisan. He will gore a democrat ox if he thinks it is right.
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The people generally aren't aware of the driving force behind the dark state, but you can bet your ass that everybody in Congress knows.
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The people generally aren't aware of the driving force behind the dark state, but you can bet your ass that everybody in Congress knows. That's for sure. They hold their purse strings. One wrong move, and that's cut off, followed by a relentless series of attacks from the MSM, ending political careers, apart from those tiny few who've chosen to remain independent of their influence, relying solely on grass roots support and/or self-funding.
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Integrity appears to be fleeting if not already GONE from the Officer Corps. There were no laws broken or even "strained". As usual, the coverup is worse than the original sin. The big issue here is the publication of extremely sensitive, possibly Top Secret information. Since General Flynn is an American, whomever divulged his conversation to the press should have first gone to a Fed Judge, just to get the ball rolling. It appears this was not done and that is the big issue here. I guarantee you guys there were maybe six or seven people at most involved in this leak and I hope Trump moves quickly to stop this. The democrats are going to make crap up just to get the media going on brainwashing the public. Yep, the leaks are the crime, not Flynn talking to the Ruskies. It seems political military officers were promoted during the Obongo years, the Pattons of the Corps were dissed, including Flynn, McCrystal and others. It's gonna take some effort to root out those players, promote the real soldiers, same with the other departments. The intelligence community is a force within itself. I hope Mad Dog and his cadre can make this happen. With Sessions, Kelly and T-Rex in their slots, maybe this mess, system wide, will get cleaned up. I sure hope so, as the nation as we know it is in a perilous situation, at a crossroads so to speak. DF
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Good clip...from a democrat, too.
The Russian boogeyman thing is a cover and he does a good job pointing it out. Let's see, first the Ruskies elected Trump and now his administration is in bed with them....right...
Soros, Clintons and their inside people in intelligence using major media as their mouthpiece, waging civil war against an elected president.
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The nation as we know it is in a perilous situation, at a crossroads so to speak.
DF Absolutely!
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Soros, Clintons and their inside people in intelligence using major media as their mouthpiece, waging civil war against an elected president.
Gotta clean house, offer no quarter, take no prisoners... Scorched earth campaign, Sherman thru Georgia. Otherwise, the ankle biters will keep on spiking the cannons, sticks in the spokes, sabotage. DF
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I'm not predicting anything here but this is the sort of thing that causes military coups and the like. Governments get full of all these competing factions with all these competing and unknown interests, until the literal survival of the country is at stake and someone gets frustrated and decides to clean out the opposition by force.
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