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k22hornet in my estimation has the best solution. Place more emphasis on the bullet than the cartridge.


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Originally Posted by Tim M
if you own one and your on the fence, shoot it at some shyt and see what happens. Shot lots of pigs in the head with a S&W bodyguard 380 before pulling them out of the traps. they tend to just drop at the shot. if it will kills pigs at 3-4yds it should be fine for 2 legged vermin at the distances i'm worried about.

Ideal? no but not a doubt that its adequate.


Counting on heads shot in a lethal confrontation is a piss poor idea. Try body shots and shoulder shots, that's a more realistic comparison.



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Originally Posted by NVhntr
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Actually shooting a 380 and seeing its lack of ballistic performance makes me not want to depend on its feebleness.


Do tell.
What gun were you shooting?
What were you shooting at?
What ammo were you using?
How did you analyze the results?


Crickets


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Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by jwp475
Actually shooting a 380 and seeing its lack of ballistic performance makes me not want to depend on its feebleness.


Do tell.
What gun were you shooting?
What were you shooting at?
What ammo were you using?
How did you analyze the results?


Crickets



Stupid f'ing question. There are plenty of ballistics online test you can watch. The 380 dam sure doesn't leave as large a wound channel as a 9mm +P nor does it penetrate as well.

You'd have to be ignorant as hell to believe otherwise. If you want to carry one then knock yourself out.




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Funny as hell.I hear guys say they are going to double tap,or keep shooting until it's empty, or do a head shot.
I wonder what they think the bad guys going to be doing in that time especially when most confrontations are 5-10 feet away and the bad guy is shooting back or even coming at them with a knife.


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Originally Posted by saddlesore
Funny as hell.I hear guys say they are going to double tap,or keep shooting until it's empty, or do a head shot.
I wonder what they think the bad guys going to be doing in that time especially when most confrontations are 5-10 feet away and the bad guy is shooting back or even coming at them with a knife.


They are in fantasy land.



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Originally Posted by saddlesore
Funny as hell.I hear guys say they are going to double tap,or keep shooting until it's empty, or do a head shot.
I wonder what they think the bad guys going to be doing in that time especially when most confrontations are 5-10 feet away and the bad guy is shooting back or even coming at them with a knife.


It doesn't take long to empty a pistol, even (or especially) at bad breath range.

Hell, it often happens without the shooter being totally cognizant of doing so.

That's not an indictment of your overall point, as it is quite valid. However, the "shoot until empty" is not exactly the same as the others.


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I suspect that if this thread had been titled "would you trust your life to a 45", there would be the usual suspects that would say you need something bigger.

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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by jwp475
Actually shooting a 380 and seeing its lack of ballistic performance makes me not want to depend on its feebleness.


Do tell.
What gun were you shooting?
What were you shooting at?
What ammo were you using?
How did you analyze the results?


Crickets



Stupid f'ing question. There are plenty of ballistics online test you can watch. The 380 dam sure doesn't leave as large a wound channel as a 9mm +P nor does it penetrate as well.

You'd have to be ignorant as hell to believe otherwise. If you want to carry one then knock yourself out.


So, you didn't actually shoot a .380 to be "seeing it's lack of ballistic performance" (whatever that means).

Who ever compared a .380 to a 9mm +P?

Do you always just make schidt up?


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Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by jwp475
Actually shooting a 380 and seeing its lack of ballistic performance makes me not want to depend on its feebleness.


Do tell.
What gun were you shooting?
What were you shooting at?
What ammo were you using?
How did you analyze the results?


Crickets



Stupid f'ing question. There are plenty of ballistics online test you can watch. The 380 dam sure doesn't leave as large a wound channel as a 9mm +P nor does it penetrate as well.

You'd have to be ignorant as hell to believe otherwise. If you want to carry one then knock yourself out.


So, you didn't actually shoot a .380 to be "seeing it's lack of ballistic performance" (whatever that means).

Who ever compared a .380 to a 9mm +P?

Do always just make schidt up?


You are stupid fugg. I shot a 380 you trolling POS and I find it lacking in ballistic performance just like every law enforcement agency in this country. I compared the 380 to a 9 +P dumb azz. A 9mm +P is a standard in self defense usage.

Take your crickets BS and stick it where the sun don't shine

I ignored you to start with for a reason. I shot more handgun rounds and more game with one than you've dreamed off.


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How could you possibly know that?

Stop making stuff up.


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And you never did answer my questions.

They weren't hard.


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James Bond did amazing schit with a 380. I saw it right on the TV!


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Crazy Horse carried a 380. It didn't work out.


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Originally Posted by 1Nut
James Bond did amazing schit with a 380. I saw it right on the TV!


James Bond was amazing.



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Originally Posted by 1Nut
James Bond did amazing schit with a 380. I saw it right on the TV!
He preferred a .32 ACP, but Q compelled him to switch to the "much more powerful" .380 ACP.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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James Bond did amazing schit with a 380. I saw it right on the TV!
He preferred a .32 ACP, but Q compelled him to switch to the "much more powerful" .380 ACP.


He started with the .25ACP and used the .32ACP for years.


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Funny as hell.I hear guys say they are going to double tap,or keep shooting until it's empty, or do a head shot.
I wonder what they think the bad guys going to be doing in that time especially when most confrontations are 5-10 feet away and the bad guy is shooting back or even coming at them with a knife.


It doesn't take long to empty a pistol, even (or especially) at bad breath range.

Hell, it often happens without the shooter being totally cognizant of doing so.

That's not an indictment of your overall point, as it is quite valid. However, the "shoot until empty" is not exactly the same as the others.


Oh, you can bet, no matter what am carrying ,I will be shooting until the threat is removed, the gun is empty or I am dead. If the need ever arises,I can only hope the first scenario occurs, because once the gun is empty and the threat is not remove,the third scenario becomes very probable


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Karamojo Bell used a .380 to kill 1011 elephants in his career. Some people say he used a rifle, but they are mistaken, it was a 380.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
Crazy Horse carried a 380. It didn't work out.


I always liked Neil Young. Didn't know he carried a 380 though.... whistle



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