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I know it's defeatist, etc. but seriously, what happens? Trump is almost too good to be true. These Globalist/NWO/Deep State Big Boys have to have him in their sights. He's been pretty much teflon so far as to ruining his reputation, so they'll have to go to Plan B or they'll all be out of business or broke.


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You need a hobby.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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What happened when they killed Kennedy. That was the start of the long dark slide into oblivion.

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Wasnt it a stroke of luck for the Johnson family for him to get it when Ladybirds family owned Bell Helicopter, Sea Container and Brown and Root, and just after Kennedy promised we would not go to war in Nam.


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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Right after JFK said he would break the CIA into a million pieces too.

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I've always believed in the lone nut deal with JFK but let's look at a few things.

JFK fired Allan Dulles as CIA director and he fired General Cable as deputy director. JFK was killed in Dallas where General Cable's brother, Earl Cable, was mayor. The new president, LBJ, was also from Texas. He created a commission to investigate the JFK murder. He appointed Allan Dulles to that commission and said commission determined that Oswald was a lone nut.

Reagan was very nearly assasinated. His VP and the man who would have been president was George Bush who had also been Director of the CIA. He was shiot by a troubled young man named John Hinckly, Jr.. George Bush was close friends with the elder Hincklys and even planned to eat dinner with them the night Reagan was shot.

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Some things are better left unsaid.


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Trump is an outsider.

By literal definition, that means that the federal government that has one ultimate goal, (To protect itself, and insure it continues) will be against him in every way they possibly can be.

Which is why we have what we are seeing today with party defectors, leaks, treasonists, and accomplices like the MSM.

They'd way rather ruin him. But will try to kill him if ruination fails.

The left wants to ruin or kill him too.

Either scenario will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. eek


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You need a hobby.


Yep


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it's Trump and his followers against the system.

the congress, some of them at least, will give him support, but in name only. the demo's are not in the game. it's the repubs. and when things get dicey, they'll turn and run. they're protect themselves and their kind. they do represent the "system" afterall.

Trump will have his citizen supporters to depend upon if the sledding gets really rough. the tea party types will continue to rally around him i'm thinking.

it's developing into a game where either he changes government, or it'll be business as usual after he's but a memory.


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Either scenario will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. eek
I would love to be able to believe that, but I don't. There is too much luxury in America to give up by doing what is right for our kids and grandkids. No one will give up their plush life to die or rot in a jail. If they would, the NYT, Huffington, CNN, and other alphabet traitors would be under constant harassment and threat of safety. The lieberals would be cowered and back off knowing it could be them next, but they don't have to worry about that. No one is getting out of their lazyboy to get their hands dirty. Even today, people right on this site who blew the trumpet for Trump are already questioning his effectiveness. American's no longer have the initiative to be free but only prosperous.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

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I hope secret service is for Trump

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Here is Chuck Baldwin's take on the subject from back before the election . . . well worth another read . . . https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...K_and_Donald_Trump_-_beware#Post11518275


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"I hope secret service is for Trump"



They're not!




Trump should look at US History and see who provided security for presidents before the Civil War.

The S.S. is secret in a few ways Americans are not generally aware of.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I know it's defeatist, etc. but seriously, what happens? Trump is almost too good to be true. These Globalist/NWO/Deep State Big Boys have to have him in their sights. He's been pretty much teflon so far as to ruining his reputation, so they'll have to go to Plan B or they'll all be out of business or broke.
Not only broke, but eventually hanging from a rope, when you consider the depth of their crimes against the US and its people.

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For many, it is easy and simple to question and criticize the guy.

Trump fought an uphill battle in unconventional ways to get the nomination - did the same to win the Presidency. He seems to be continuing in the same vein. However, the hill is even steeper/higher and the battle more diverse due to the mass of entrenched and selfish people trying to defeat him and his efforts.

If he is to prevail, he will need more smarts, toughness, stamina and resilience than any President we've seen for a long time - maybe ever - and he will need smart, strong and loyal folks on his team. Not an easy task, at all, and if he can't turn this mess back into something great - who can and will? Maybe an "all in" last chance?


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Originally Posted by hanco
I hope secret service is for Trump
It's likely that the deep state always keeps a cadre of their own within the Secret Service, just in case. Notice that Trump has yet to dismiss his own trusted personal security forces upon becoming president, despite prodding to do so.

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Originally Posted by CCCC
For many, it is easy and simple to question and criticize the guy.

Trump fought an uphill battle in unconventional ways to get the nomination - did the same to win the Presidency. He seems to be continuing in the same vein. However, the hill is even steeper/higher and the battle more diverse due to the mass of entrenched and selfish people trying to defeat him and his efforts.

If he is to prevail, he will need more smarts, toughness, stamina and resilience than any President we've seen for a long time - maybe ever - and he will need smart, strong and loyal folks on his team. Not an easy task, at all, and if he can't turn this mess back into something great - who can and will? Maybe an "all in" last chance?
He is also going to need the vocal and actionable support of "them who brung him". I don't see that happening right now, and if it doesn't soon, turn the lights out. The last thing I want to be right about is my opinion of todays "conservative" electorate. It appears to me the thing they are most conservative about is getting off their dead asses and digging into the fray. Kinda like skeered little kids. I find that disgusting and repulsive. So do the libs and they are kicking ass and taking names.


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Here is Chuck Baldwin's take on the subject from back before the election . . . well worth another read . . . https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...K_and_Donald_Trump_-_beware#Post11518275


the more and more i see folks shopping at wally-world, buying cheap-arse imported crap, and watching cable tv, the more i think we have met the enemy... and it is us.

it's a classic war between/among ideologies: capitalism vs socialism with a dollop of libertarianism, Green, and communist and Anarchy thrown in to provide leavening.

and further: it's a fight between nationalism and globalism. that goes on too, as we speak. wonder where the dynamic balance point is, so that we all might live long, healthful lives?

and while i'm at it, just please allow me to add that it's a war between the mega-cities, and the rural countryside. two different views of the world entirely, more or less. that is, urban thoughts and rural thoughts often collide. for example, in the inner city, guns are for making a living, self=defense, and to provide safety, whether illegal or not. in the rural countryside, we enjoy guns for hunting, subsistence type & trophy related, target shooting, general recreation, and also self=defense.

the values are all skewed in one direction or another.




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Originally Posted by CCCC
For many, it is easy and simple to question and criticize the guy.

Trump fought an uphill battle in unconventional ways to get the nomination - did the same to win the Presidency. He seems to be continuing in the same vein. However, the hill is even steeper/higher and the battle more diverse due to the mass of entrenched and selfish people trying to defeat him and his efforts.

If he is to prevail, he will need more smarts, toughness, stamina and resilience than any President we've seen for a long time - maybe ever - and he will need smart, strong and loyal folks on his team. Not an easy task, at all, and if he can't turn this mess back into something great - who can and will? Maybe an "all in" last chance?

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