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Originally Posted by kingston
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It's a weird thing knowing you will be dead FOREVER. Forever is one hell of a long time.


I've always assumed that outside the narrow window of human experience, forever is all at once.


why of course it is. once worked w/an old dude nailin' tin on commerical poultry house roofs. he always talked about once dead, being dead for a long time.

i kept countering that it was a long time before we were ever alive, so what's the diff? he didn't know, and i didn't either. anyways it seemed reasonable to compare the two. you know, the before and the after...

for sure, i don't want to bake under the hot summer sun nearly forever out in an open graveyard. if there's plenty of shade from a covering of oak trees, then that might be different.


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I have directed that my family take a vacation and scatter a few of my ashes on the mountain where we elk hunted. Scatter more on the old hill pasture I grew up hunting quail. Throw the rest in the ditch somewhere, who wants to spend eternity stacked up among a bunch of boring dead people.


well, there it is.

why not organize a group, perhaps large, of people who are planning to pass on. then quick freeze the bodies (after they/we have passed on), put them into a container ship with a large chipper on board. they're moved out into parts of the sea that are experiencing micro-nutrient shortages, and have a great celebration returning the micro-nutrients to the water system, in an attempt to restore the health of the eco-system? this could happen in our time, couldn't it?


Feed the whales?


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Originally Posted by MissouriEd
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I have directed that my family take a vacation and scatter a few of my ashes on the mountain where we elk hunted. Scatter more on the old hill pasture I grew up hunting quail. Throw the rest in the ditch somewhere, who wants to spend eternity stacked up among a bunch of boring dead people.


well, there it is.

why not organize a group, perhaps large, of people who are planning to pass on. then quick freeze the bodies (after they/we have passed on), put them into a container ship with a large chipper on board. they're moved out into parts of the sea that are experiencing micro-nutrient shortages, and have a great celebration returning the micro-nutrients to the water system, in an attempt to restore the health of the eco-system? this could happen in our time, couldn't it?


Feed the whales?


yeah, now we're talking. at least we could begin the discussion? wink


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I did some work at a funeral home couple years ago just happened to be the one my dad's family uses got to see the "workings in use" no use in going into detail but a dumb ass country boy got a lesson on cremation real quick when in the room your working in what you thought was dust on the floor turned out to be something else when the man walks in with a tin foil KKK suit and up rolls up a door and he rakes the coals

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Cremated, ashes scattered in Resurrection Bay.

Don't want a funeral, just have folks who know me get together and try to figure out how I knew so many fine folks in my life. grin

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cremation if they can find my body. No funeral.

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I counter that it'll be impossible - since she'll be incarcerated for murder. smile


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A lifelong friend of mine passed before her time; breast cancer.

She was cremated in accordance with her wishes but no service for six months. Then there was a gathering, but it was more a celebration of a life than sad.

Her daughter gave out portions of her mom's ashes to those that requested to scatter them in beautiful places.

I left some in Costa Rica, and some high up on the Mescalero Res, and some again at a State Park she had loved in NY State.

Anyhow, that's the best funeral I've had experience with.

Cremation for myself, folks can do what they want after that.

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My only request so far, to family and friends is that there be no proselytizing at my funeral. Funerals are for the living and most of my family are Christians, so I don't mind if they want some scripture readings and such, but if a preacher is hired he damn well better not try to save the dirty, rotten, no good souls of my friends who have come to pay their respects. If people are interested in what the preacher is selling they can go to his church on Sunday morning. My funeral service is not the place for that. I've walked out of a few funerals when the preacher forgot who he was there to talk about.


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I want to be cremated and have my ashes mixed into a douche so I can go at it one time in the afterlife.


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Originally Posted by smarquez
I want to be cremated and have my ashes mixed into a douche so I can go at it one time in the afterlife.


There she is, I wondered how long it would be, never thought it would take 11 pages..................

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I want to be cremated and have my ashes mixed into a douche so I can go at it one time in the afterlife.


There she is, I wondered how long it would be, never thought it would take 11 pages..................


One last fish taco for the road. wink


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An autopsy can run you big money. Private autopsy is very expensive. If not ordered or required by law the family will have to pay, in advance cash or money order.

A partial( meaning they have a good idea what caused it and aren't examining all organs and tissues starts at about 5500$ here. Not including transport either way.

Full is about 8000. If specialist are required then you will also have to pay them for their time in advance. It's about 1500$ if they do that. Then you have to pay for a funeral.

Trust me I have helped set up about 8 of these. Most families say they want one and then when they hear the price are like "nah we good". I deal with death a lot in my job. Very rare they actually need a autopsy unless murder, or are young with no medical history Toxicology is done pretty commonly

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Direct cremation, cheapest way to go. I care as much about my body as the '83 Ranger I scraped years ago. I see cemeteries as nothing more than junk yards, the engines are dead and the drivers gone.


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I don't want one damned dime more than is aboslutely necessary spent on this. We have discussed this, and my wife and kids know what I want. Two empty 300 Savage casings are to filled with my ashes. One will go to our camp in Pennsylvania to spread up high on the mountain where my dad loved to hunt. I've always said we would hunt together one day, and so it shall be. I had my son up to that very spot last fall, and he knows what is expected of him. The other casing will go to the cemetery where my mom and dad are buried. Every time I go home, I have put an empty casing for Dad and one red rose for Mom on their simple marker. A casing of my ashes will put me at rest with both of them. The remainder of my ashes, will be interred up here in Minnesota in a gravesight in my wife's family plot.


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Nobody has mentioned this yet.

Prepay for whatever funeral arrangements you want and you will typically get a 10% discount, maybe more.

Also, you can decide what you want without the emotion and pressure that is involved when someone has to put things together quickly when someone has just passed. That is when the funeral directors pile on lots of extras because, after all, "you do want the best for your loved one, don't you?"

I am partly responsible for a childless widow aunt with dementia in a rest home in Tucson. She earlier indicated she wanted a casket burial next to my uncle.

My cousin and I prepaid her funeral expenses and got a 10% discount. We made the funeral director give us a detailed, broken down list of every thing his "Lower Cost" package included. Then we went line by line and eliminated about a third of the charges as unnecessary. And we specified a weekday graveside service, because weekend charges were much higher.

Our final total was around $6k instead of the $10k+ that the director started with.

Much better to plan ahead, if possible.


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Years ago I had a freaky girlfriend that was a widow. I think she was like 23 years old. She told me her husband was killed in a motorcycle wreck. He'd told them to roll some of his ashes in a joint and enjoy.

They had a party and did.


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Just talked to an old friend. He told me he was going in the lake too. It is like a sense of freedom, forever.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
A lifelong friend of mine passed before her time; breast cancer.

She was cremated in accordance with her wishes but no service for six months. Then there was a gathering, but it was more a celebration of a life than sad.

Her daughter gave out portions of her mom's ashes to those that requested to scatter them in beautiful places.

I left some in Costa Rica, and some high up on the Mescalero Res, and some again at a State Park she had loved in NY State.

Anyhow, that's the best funeral I've had experience with.

Cremation for myself, folks can do what they want after that.

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This is close to what I had in mind.


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Inexpensive casket.


Cardboard casket inexpensive enough? grin

http://eeternity.com/

Cardboard would work for me. Given that I have a sawmill, I've also thought about sawing out some nice Eastern Red Cedar, and either building my own, or, having the Amish build one for me. Supposedly the Amish around here make caskets exclusively out of red cedar.

I did saw out some red cedar for a customer one time who was building his own casket. Approx 6'-6" tall. Claimed that he had a friend who had to have his legs broken to fit in a standard casket so as not to have the family wait for a special order, extra length. Customer decided he would just build his own to fit, and not have his family have to deal with any potential logistical issues. Not sure if the story was true. But his cash was green, so, I sawed out what he wanted... grin




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