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which do you use and why?
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A friend of mine has QD on his 416Rigby and has two different scope setups for two different loads - plains game and dangerous game.
I haven't been to Africa but shoot informal competition and have QD (Warne) on my 458WM - one scope for normal loads and another for cast loads. An NECG rear ghost ring sight spends most time on the rifle. If I were to hunt I Africa, I'd take the 458 with scope + ghost ring as a back-up.
I've never had any issues with the Warne QDs and they always maintain the sight settings. I'm always swapping the scopes and GR sights over so they've had plenty of use.
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I like solid-mounted scopes as a rule. If you are using a big bore in Africa after Cape Buffalo or Elephant, it might be helpful to have a QD mount for in-close work, where you can remove the scope for a better field of view.
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QD on my heavy rifle. Fixed on all others.
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QD on my heavy rifle. Fixed on all others. Same for me.
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QD on my heavy rifle. Fixed on all others. Same for me. Samey same. Mike
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Talley QD steel on the .375 and.458, fixed on the .300 Wby. The Wby doesn't have iron sights.
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I usually have QD's on any of them, so I can change out a scope easily if something happens to it. Have a spare scope set up in the same rings.
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I have QR extension rings on my Winchester 70 in 375 H&H, otherwise the only Leupold Vari-X IIc 2-7x28 tube would be too short to reach proper eye relief.
If I was going back to Africa, I would bring my Interarms Mark X mannlichers in 7x57 and 9.3x62 with Leopold QRs and an extra scope pre-zeroed for each rifle, probably 2-7x33s or 2.5-8x36s, all with HD reticles.
In the U.S., I always carry a spare rifle, but that isn't practical, so a rifle set up with QR mounts and a spare, pre-zeroed, scope is a good alternative.
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I usually have QD's on any of them, so I can change out a scope easily if something happens to it. Have a spare scope set up in the same rings. Same as MD for my heavy rifles. Personally, I know I'm not practiced enough to want to rely on open sights during a DG hunt. However, scopes can and will go bad on the heavy rifles so I always bring an extra scope set up with the same rings and sighted in so I can easily swap the scope out.
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QD are good for a back up scope or to have a higher power scope for load work and lower to hunt with. On a heavy rifle they just seem right but I would not be likely to take the scope off to use irons in the field unless the scope got banged. The tally peep is a nice addition and can be carried at all times. You can increase the aperture size to make it more of a ghost ring. I have also had good reputability with the fixed Talley's and they are fast to change with the Torx screws. On some rifles I took the levers off to make them more snag proof and a 100% reliable.
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QD on all my rifles that have open sights (all are large caliber 375 to 450) and fixed on all without sights (medium to small caliber. No use in having open sights if no QD rings. I don't have any rifles using 2 scopes.
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I use Leopold QD on my Win 375 with backup iron sights and open sights on my 500 NE double rifle. I actually love to shoot the 375 with open sights whenever possible and of course gotta shoot a double with open sights.
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I have the QRW mounts on my .375 and travel with an identical spare scope pre zeroed. Swapping between scopes shows no change to point of impact. In fact, I swap between scopes every other trip to the range so I have confidence that swapping is as painless as can be. I am not so much worried about the scope going haywire as I am about physical damage to the scope. Now, if I bang and damage a scope while climbing a kopje I can be back in business in a matter of minutes without wasting a bunch of time and ammo.
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I prefer QD scope bases on my DG rifle. I had Leupold QRW bases and rings on my pre 64 Win 70 in 375 H&H in Africa but changed to Leupold QR bases and rings upon my return.
The QRW's are very low, very compact, and very easy to manipulate. They are very secure and return to zero very well. But, and this is a big but, that easy to manipulate lever caught on anything and everything!
The biggest detractor with the QR levers is I about half the time need a leatherman or other pliers to loosen them after they have been on a while.
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Talley QRs on the 375 with a spare scope in Talley rings plus the Talley peep that mounts on the rear base.
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I have a couple sets of ad bases and rings. I use them to try out different scopes on different rifles. Right now I'm getting ready to set up a .270 for cow elk. I'm planing on trying a 3.5-10 and a fixed scope.
Normally put on fixed mounts after I find what I like. This justifies the expense of the QDs.
What people are saying about QDs on dangerous game rifles makes sense.
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My set-up on the .375 was a Leupold VX III 1.5-5x When things got close it cranked down to 1.5..faster than irons to use. try it sometime...
The scope was mounted in ( HORRORS!) the basic two piece windage adjustable Leupold mounts.
It never did go 'boing!' but if it had it was a simple matter to unscrew one windage screw, give the scope a twist and shoot the irons ( which were regulated..)
Simple and worked like a charm...
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Regular scope bases on my light rifle, a Christensen 300 WSM, QDs on the mediums and none on the heavies, Open sights on the last category.
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I mounted Warne QD rings on my Ruger Hawkeye African .375 Ruger, before my last trip to Africa. These rings mount on the fixed Ruger factory base. What I found was that accuracy suffered with these rings- I simply could not get the sub-MOA accuracy I had been getting with the Ruger rings I was using before. Thought it might be the scope, but tried another scope with the same results. I went back to using the Ruger rings, and the accuracy returned! If I ever need to use the irons, a quarter in my pocket removes the scope in seconds, and it's good to go. Re-mounting the scope might need a shot or two to confirm zero, but that can be done back at camp, or wherever. I now have two sets of Warne QD rings for sale, that fit the Ruger base.
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