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Have her tested for Cushings disease. Lethargic, excess water, etc shoulds like cushings. Especially if she started having accidents.

Google it for the signs and symptons and see what other signs she has. Our dog just got diagnosed with cushings and it is treatable.


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Don't have any answers but your dog will be in my wife and mine's prayers tonight. I hate reading this. Give the pup a big hug for us.


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Thanks everyone. All advice is appreciated.

This morning she got up from bed and went outside on her own.

She was struggling so I carried her to her toilet area out in the woods. She snuck around the pup and I and went and laid down in the creek. Not normal for her this time of year, 40F. I'm convinced her abdomen hurts.

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I'm comparing this recent picture, to previous ones you posted. In this pic, Brandy's peri- orbital area, around the eyes, looks a little puffy. Thinking some kidney problem. Qr possibly congestive heart failure. Maybe even a pericardium inflammation, the sac around the heart. It would cause occasional gagging, maybe cough, excessive yawning maybe, lethargy and less eating/poor appetite.
I would think though, that the vet has checked her heart sounds and xray of her heart for increased size.

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I guess I will be the first to say it. You need to help this dog end her suffering. I did this with a sick dog. Brought him home so the kids could come see him one last time. I thought I had a week. He deteriorated rapidly in 2 days so I ended up putting him down on Fathers Day of all days. It just wasn't fair to put our emotions ahead of that poor guys suffering. It would be the kindest thing you could do now.

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Hope you get it figured out. 6 years is to young to lose a dog.


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Wyogal, I know her abdomen was x-rayed.

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Here is another photo taken at the same time.
Do you still see what you described previously?

smarquez, I appreciate the sentiment. Don't think it isn't weighing on my mind.


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Hard to tell from that angle. Sunlight and color of fur around her eyes from that angle looking down at her, I really can't tell.

Would have to get a little closer down to eye level to visualize.

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As a last resort, I would get on the phone and call every vet I could until one of them sounded promising or knowledgeable of her problem. I then would take her as fast as I could to that vet. powdr

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Originally Posted by powdr
As a last resort, I would get on the phone and call every vet I could until one of them sounded promising or knowledgeable of her problem. I then would take her as fast as I could to that vet. powdr


I would get A second third or even fourth opinion. I hope everything works out for you guys.

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Assuming she was tested for diabetes too? Excessive water consumption and lethargy are hallmarks of high blood sugar, and it will also affect the vision.


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Yes she was. Kidneys and diabetes are the first things he suspected. I know he sent her blood to a lab for comprehensive testing and also ran some tests himself.

I first took her to him on a Saturday, Sunday night he called me with an initial diagnosis that she had a tick born disease, I believe Rocky Mountain Spotted. I then informed him she had Erlichia. He gave her 2 shots and sent her home with doxycycline 3x per day. She ate good for 2 days and quit eating again. We took her off doxy and he gave her injections again and sent her home with nutrical which I gave her for several days until I felt she was crashing and took her back to the vet. I told him I thought she was finished, he examined her and decided to treat her and did along with syringe feeding her for 4 days when I asked him to remove her Seresto collar and bathe her. Her collar was removed Thursday and I brought her home. She looked terrible and was very weak. Today is the second day without the collar and I definitely see improvement although she is still very ill.

I know its a long shot but I'm hoping it was at least partially the collar. Today she is alert with clear eyes and much more involved.


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Thats some good news.


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Originally Posted by ringworm
Quality; quantity.

Care to expound?

She seems a bit improved this morning. When she saw I was awake she wagged her tail and came and sat by me which is her normal morning custom which she hasn't done for a couple weeks.
I carried her outside to her toilet area and will syringe feed her breakfast soon.


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Glad to hear of the improvement.

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I think we often forget that it's a living animal in distress and regardless of what is life does to fulfill ours, perhaps the most benevolent thing we can do is let it go.


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I think a lot of folks should be let go. Many of them on this website alone.


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Originally Posted by sawbuck
...here we are over 5 years later and Brandy stops jumping up in the truck or on anything and slowly
starts eating less but was still maintaining her weight. Suddenly about 3 weeks ago she became lethargic and stopped
participating in normal activities and stopped eating completely.

My bull terrier girl had the onset of those sort of symptoms , I found upon taking her to the vet
she had a well advanced euterine infection...then had to make the toughest decision of my life.
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