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screw em! Throw lead, a crippled pig ain't as good as a dead pig, but it is a lot better than a healthy one!!If they are bloodied the others will eat them!!Nasty scurge
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On my lease the war is on. My 243 likes the 80 grain TTSX loaded hot, but I bet the hogs won't. The 95 grain Ballistic Tip has been good so far, but this year we're talking about more less than ideal shots since the gloves are off.
Just for kicks I might bring my 338 mag out of retirement.
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.338 WM may over penetrate... Should be a good hog gun. I like TTSX's for hogs. DF
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I also have a 26" barreled 300 Weatherby. I bet a 150 grain TTSX would scream out of that one.
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The TTSX should work fine. When we hunt at night on our depredation permits we use an AR15 for increased rate of fire due to groups of 20+ swine. The .223 TTSX is not as deadly as the 155 Scenar in .30-06, but the lack of recoil and the semi-auto reloading sure helps at night in target acquisition and moving to another target. Our load is max Varget and 62 grain TTSX. It has worked very adequately out to 200 yards for us. Have considered a .300 Blackout and a suppressor but can hardly justify bringing another firearm in the house w/o getting rid of some.
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The TTSX should work fine. When we hunt at night on our depredation permits we use an AR15 for increased rate of fire due to groups of 20+ swine. The .223 TTSX is not as deadly as the 155 Scenar in .30-06, but the lack of recoil and the semi-auto reloading sure helps at night in target acquisition and moving to another target. Our load is max Varget and 62 grain TTSX. It has worked very adequately out to 200 yards for us. Have considered a .300 Blackout and a suppressor but can hardly justify bringing another firearm in the house w/o getting rid of some. You never "justify" another firearm... I have an SSK AR .300 Whisper with a can. It's sorta heavy. Subsonic, it's good to around 100 yds, starts falling off after that. Subsonic 220's @ 1,000 fps, K.E. at a hundred is pretty close to a point blank .45 ACP, so they'll kill stuff. I've thought about a thermal scope for the AR/Whisper, but they're really expensive and the gun is already heavy. DF Edited to add, ingwe likes lighter Barnes in his .223/.223AI. IIRC, he prefers the 53 gr. TSX. I like TTSX's and would go with 50 gr. loaded to the max. Those may perform better than heavier Barnes in the .223. I'd save 62 TTSX's for my fast twist .22-250, pushing them hard.
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I also have a 26" barreled 300 Weatherby. I bet a 150 grain TTSX would scream out of that one. Should make a dent... DF
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Another good .223 bullet is the 60 gr. Partition. Those kill well.
The 64 gr. Nosler Bonded solid base (BSB), reportedly has great terminal performance, I just never could get them to group.
Some like the 65 gr. Win Powerpoint, I have some to try, just never got around to it.
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I just remembered I have a few hundred 190 grain Nosler match bullets. Maybe I'll find some match grade hogs.
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Can you shoot all the hogs out. I don't think so. Maybe you can scare them off for a while, but not kill them all. My experience is that pigs are not territorial. They move dependent upon food or human pressure. I suspect that they are much like coyote. Here in South Texas they did an experiment. I don't remember the exact facts, but here is the just of the matter. There was a ranch that was over 10,000 acres, as I recall. A state highway bisected the ranch approximately equally. On one side of the highway all coyoties were killed on sight. On the other side, none were shot. The ranch was monitored by TPW. At the end of 5 years the coyote population had remained the same on both sides. Captdavid
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If you are a hunter, and farther than that, get closer!
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Can you shoot all the hogs out. I don't think so. Maybe you can scare them off for a while, but not kill them all. My experience is that pigs are not territorial. They move dependent upon food or human pressure. I suspect that they are much like coyote. Here in South Texas they did an experiment. I don't remember the exact facts, but here is the just of the matter. There was a ranch that was over 10,000 acres, as I recall. A state highway bisected the ranch approximately equally. On one side of the highway all coyoties were killed on sight. On the other side, none were shot. The ranch was monitored by TPW. At the end of 5 years the coyote population had remained the same on both sides. Captdavid You don't reckon a 'yote can cross a highway. Even if high fenced, they'll scratch under the wire and go where they want. Wonder how much money TPW wasted on that one... Hogs will breed faster than you or anyone can kill them. They're smart, will adapt to about anything we can throw at them. Choppers, well they stay in the brush, don't come out. Shooting pressure, they go nocturnal. Night scopes, they'll always find a way to move out of danger. Trapping works until they figure it out. Not sure about poisoning with nitrites. Knowing hogs, they'll probably figure a way to avoid the bait. DF
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DF, thanks for making my point! captdavid
"It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds.
If you are a hunter, and farther than that, get closer!
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Just for kicks I might bring my 338 mag out of retirement.
I shot one with a .338 WM, it did indeed 'way over penetrate.
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That's not as bad as elkhunternm killing NM jackwabbits with his .460 and other such mega cannons... He'd probably consider the .338 WM a bit light. And, we thought gunner was bad. DF
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In my 7mm, 300, and 338 mag days I was not the conservative loader I am now either.
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my favorite shot is as follows draw an imaginary line between the ear and shoulder and place a well constructed bullet two inches (or so)below the ear on that line. Severs the spine and they drop and paddle Do that and they will drop and paddle! No tracking necessary! a skosh back or forward one is still good ya! GWB
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Ah, you learned where to shoot them from your "Mexican" friends, too!
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Shot a large boar in that exact spot with a 180gr soft nose from a .300 Savage a few years ago. Pretty much took his head off, and he almost squashed two baby pigs when he fell.
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Good thread, and I certainly enjoyed the read. Like others have said, I'll take the shot they give me, as long as I am comfortable and steady. Between the peepers, just below the earhole, though the neck or pin the shoulders. One of the three I shot this year was tight behind the shoulder and about one third of the way down from the top of the back. He ran for about 50 yards, but the blood trail was easy enough to follow.
If I had my way, I'd give up shooting deer for the rest of my days and shoot hogs at least once a month.
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If I had my way, I'd give up shooting deer for the rest of my days and shoot hogs at least once a month.
I'm with ya' on that! or maybe 3 or 4 times ya! GWB
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