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Not nearly enough revolver cartridges out there to completely fill all the voids and niches. So I'm doing my part to complete the library. Made a comment on another thread about a 10mm Rimmed, not really seriously. But the more I think about it there's a good dang gap that needs filling and I have just the solution. The 10mm AutoRim. Should be able to fit 6 in an L-frame cylinder and possibly stretch the case just a little bit beyond the standard 10mm. 5" barrel should get 180 to 200 gr bullets up to similar speed as .357 158 gr, maybe more. Nice medium weight revolver, good ballistics, and you don't have to go up to the N-frame bulk to do it. Another good name would be the .400 S&W. I like it. I'd buy one.
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Nope. Too close to a .44 package in weight and bulk for what I'm suggesting.
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I'm on board with the rimmed 10mm idea.
.41 is too close to a .44. A .39 cal would be "perfect" but with so many .40 bullet options, I think something like a .401 powermag would be ... interesting.
This rimmed 10mm should not be trying to be a .41 or .44 magnum, it should push a 200 grain bullet at 1200 fps from a 4" barreled revolver. I've long said that's my formula for perfect deer medicine, a .40 cal, 200 grain bullet at 1200 fps. More isn't better, more is just ... more.
I have a Ruger Buckeye Special .38-40/10mm ... it's fun to shoot, more snot than a .357 but a lot less buck 'n' roar than the .41 and .44. A rimmed 10 would work .. whether it'd sell enough to survive ... not so sure about that.
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10mmR would be cool. I love the 45 auto rim. I always wanted a 50 Special. I know some custom revolvers have been made in it. Not looking for magnum performance but something cool to me about those 1/2" holes in a target. One of the reasons I like my 50/70 Trapdoor.
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Would need to make sure it totally avoided fitting the 41 Colt in some way...
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200 gr at 1200fps, sure sounds like a 41 special.
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Sounds kind of like a hot .38-40
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Not nearly enough revolver cartridges out there to completely fill all the voids and niches. So I'm doing my part to complete the library. Made a comment on another thread about a 10mm Rimmed, not really seriously. But the more I think about it there's a good dang gap that needs filling and I have just the solution. The 10mm AutoRim. Should be able to fit 6 in an L-frame cylinder and possibly stretch the case just a little bit beyond the standard 10mm. 5" barrel should get 180 to 200 gr bullets up to similar speed as .357 158 gr, maybe more. Nice medium weight revolver, good ballistics, and you don't have to go up to the N-frame bulk to do it. Another good name would be the .400 S&W. I like it. I'd buy one. Colt made a very small batch of .41 Mag Pythons, but abandoned the idea quickly. Always thought a .41 Python would be just theawwfultimate DA revolver!! I'd trade a LOT of my current guns for such a revolver.
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Me thinks he's referencing splitting hairs, in this case a Red C**t Hair, the tiniest unit of measurement known to engineering science. And for the OP, a GP100 in 41 Special does 220-230 gr lead at 1200.
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...simple solution from a LONG time ago.... .401 Herters Power Mag... Would have been the perfect round for the 60s vintage Colt Python/Trooper and todays L-Frame Smiths and GP100... http://www.gunblast.com/Fryxell_Herters401.htm
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make the gun also take 40 S&W and 10mm in moon clips and you can sign me up for a couple....
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.375 Winchester cut back would be even better. But it's been done. No one liked it.
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.375 Winchester cut back would be even better. But it's been done. No one liked it. You mean a shorter version of the .375 Maximum?
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make the gun also take 40 S&W and 10mm in moon clips and you can sign me up for a couple.... It would be easy enough...both TK Custom and Pinnacle convert .357 DA revolvers to take 9mm and .38 Super via moon clips so if there was a Smith or Ruger chambered in .401 it could be done.
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Not nearly enough revolver cartridges out there to completely fill all the voids and niches. Bullshit. Carry on...
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I'll also suggest the Herter's .401 Powermag has "been there, done that". I am working up loads for mine now using 180 gr hard cast to about 1200 fps, but it has been loaded "hotter". Also, a .357 Herter's cylinder can be re-chambered to 10mm, or a .401 to .38-40, both used in a .401 frame, for a "switch cylinder" handgun.
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