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A guy could probably use a nice 7Mag to try those things out. I just happen to have one in the classifieds......
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I have two 7 rems, been shootin scenars in them. I've been shooting 195's in my 7wby. I'm all for the 180 ELD stealing the show and simplifying things,we'll see. That is a nice 7 remmy 16bore..One a guy should hold on to and shoot
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A guy needs to keep an unchambered Bartlein 2B contour with 8 twist in the closet these days. Loving these heavy 7mm bullet options and planning on burning up some at longer ranges this spring/summer.
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I'll probably be saying that before long, but got the itch for the running and gunning game again. Fun stuff...
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The Berger 195 is interesting... it was real touchy with pressure in my rifle... however it does shoot well.
The 180 ELD appears to beat it ballistically anyway and at less recoil and costs less too, which is all fine by me!
My initial order of 300 gets here tomorrow. The moment I see 'em shoot well in my heavy 7 WSM- hopefully Monday- I'm ordering a bunch more. Perfect timing as I'm down to a couple boxes of the 162's. I'll just run those in my Kimber.
The CENTER will hold.
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FΓCK PUTIN!
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Bearing surface, if anyone is interested. The ELD has some shank.
180 ELD .675 180 scenar .665 180 hybrid .603 195 EOL .679
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A guy needs to keep an unchambered Bartlein 2B contour with 8 twist in the closet these days. Loving these heavy 7mm bullet options and planning on burning up some at longer ranges this spring/summer. Reckon a 2b 9 twist would sling the 180's?????
βThere are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.β ALDO LEOPOLD
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I'm going obermeyer 3 with 8t 9will work but eats a little BC.
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Sugar tits I open boxes with ease, all types. Pun intended!!! And not one has runnoft. Handles and magazines do suck! nothing gets past you do it. Ifn you spent less time seating Bullets well you know. Ps fairly good 243 hulls for .24$ a piece here. They ain't lapua but their 1/4 the price. https://secure.modernarmsinternational.com/category/cases/cases-243-winchester-brass/The 300 is Norma at a steal not steel. LOL π Did you get to keep the dog. Good talk retard.
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A guy needs to keep an unchambered Bartlein 2B contour with 8 twist in the closet these days. Loving these heavy 7mm bullet options and planning on burning up some at longer ranges this spring/summer. Reckon a 2b 9 twist would sling the 180's????? A 9 twist at 4,000 feet elevation and above shoots 180 scenars real well. Can't speak to lower elevations or the ELD in that one. My 8.5 twist has worked great with them all, but again I aways shoot at 4,000 or higher. If you haven't ordered it yet, I'd go for more twist but 9 should do fine.
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At 2500 ft ASL a 9.5 twisted 7 WSM shoots the 195 Hybrid pretty stellar.
You should be fine.
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Just missed my box from Midway... the new USPS driver is scared of my driveway apparently, haha... looks like I have to wait until Monday before I can get started with 'em.
The CENTER will hold.
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A guy needs to keep an unchambered Bartlein 2B contour with 8 twist in the closet these days. Loving these heavy 7mm bullet options and planning on burning up some at longer ranges this spring/summer. Reckon a 2b 9 twist would sling the 180's????? A 9 twist at 4,000 feet elevation and above shoots 180 scenars real well. Can't speak to lower elevations or the ELD in that one. My 8.5 twist has worked great with them all, but again I aways shoot at 4,000 or higher. If you haven't ordered it yet, I'd go for more twist but 9 should do fine. thx Kurt I've got the 9 twist in the safe already...
βThere are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.β ALDO LEOPOLD
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I'd rock on with no worries.
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Data point.... 180 ELD's in my 7 WSM didn't hit pressure at 63 gr 7828.... were very accurate throughout the pressure run-up .....lookin good. .
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No pressure signs @ 64 7828. Accuracy is phenomenal- on par with the 162's. Sub-1/2" from my ham fists. One more 100-yard sesh to find WTF pressure is, and set my Harris zero, then it's off to the races. Ordered a bunch more.
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More data FWIW. Took my Chrony up this time. I ran up to 65 grns 7828 today. I topped out near 2900 fps from my 24" 7 WSM. Being as how I'm all grown up an shΓ―t <grin> and don't chase velocity anymore I'm gonna run 63.5 grns @ 2850 fps. Accuracy is phenomenal. Fully caffeinated, from prone w/Harris and my trusty Crown Royal lentil bag: That was with 64 grains. Below is @ 63.5, with my first three shots of the day (DAMN YOU, errant flyer!) circled, with the last 3 above it. The last 3 were after a click "up" on the ol' Nightforce NXS. Given that I'm a crappy rifleman as we all know, I'd say the bullet itself must be doing wondrous things. I've now got (700) on hand and will be ordering more. LR testing starts tomorrow hopefully. Gotta finish some parts first. Fuggin work messing with my play time. What are you guys seeing?
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So...... alone........ Shot these at distance today. The recipe was 2850 fps (via my crappy Shooting Chrony) and a Nightforce 5.5-22 NXS and I started by plugging in a G1 of 0.796 in Ballistic. At 900 yards I had to jigger the software to 2900 fps to match reality... so either the BC is actually higher than .796, or my NF erector is a bit off, or my rangefinder is off, or my Chrony is off, or there was a subtle updraft I couldn't perceive. Or some combination of those variables. But the upshot (see what I did there?) is that the .796 BC held up in spades! If anything it's a bit better. I think I'm in love.....
The CENTER will hold.
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Wouldn't be alone if I could get my hands on some!! Thanks for the feedback. Obliged.
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You're gonna chase your tail using g1 that far and beyond. ...
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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