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Read them? I know them. Unlike you.

So you agree with them?

You're quoting a few indviduals out of 10,000 plus members yet you feel qualified to comment on the membership as a whole.

You're not.

There are sure those here that follow that same ideology when they aren't allowed to cross private land to get to public land.

You can't judge the whole membership by what a few post.

Not too many people can grasp both concepts of private property ownership or public lands use.

Just like they can't comprehend where leasing private land for hunting and fishing may be their choice, rather than hunting public lands.

We won't even get into the use of deer blinds or feeders...

Crossing private land is 100% a privilege to be granted (or not) by the landowner. Hard to argue otherwise.

There are those that will though.

They are usually the ones that didn't pay attention when they were told you could catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

In Colorado private land does not need to be posted or fenced, it's the trespasser's responsibility to know what's private.

Same in NM. But locally, they want you to have it posted if prosecution is to go to court.

Those GPS chip/maps that show private/public lands in real time are pretty damn good. I used it a lot as a Wildlife Specialist.

Heard of a couple of cases where land that was posted was actually discovered to be public land. They don't look kindly on restricting access in that manner. I believe they were threatened with all sorts of things, including jail and losing their permits if it happened again.

One guy was counting on close to 40 bull elk permits on his private land, and after he was caught keeping a road closed and posted on public land, he never got a permit.

Sounds good to me. That kind of thing just ain't right.

Nope.

I always tried to be helpful to the hunters on BLM we had the permit on. Made good friends with most.

One time though, I had trouble with a group of slob hunters that tore down a gate. I found them and told them I would highly recommend them fixing it before they left, as I had all their license plate numbers.

They did.

Imagine how idiotic I could make members of this site look if I cherry picked stupid comments to make a point.

Seems there is an awful lot of conjecture going on here from people who have political biases more concerned about ideology than about the issues that BCHA deals with.

Fact is, I'm sick of having to chose to vote in favor of having my guns taken away on one side, or all my public lands sold off to the highest bidder on the other.

I want both the 2nd amendment AND public lands... multi use absolutely AND some wilderness!

We saw this past year in the Presidential election that we can get a super candidate when we're pissed enough. Just cuz the parties say I have to chose doesn't mean I'll bend over and take it.

And no, I have no problem whatsoever with private land owners. They're what built this country; but they can't uphold the outdoor heritage this country built on public lands and the mystique of wild places.

Sounds to me like some have more issue with an org that doesn't toe the Rep Party line... which is divestiture of public lands... and look where that'd have got us in the last election... Jeb Bush!?!? Screw that!

thankyou! I wonder what folks want really? Hunting is predicated on having land to do this on. If we don't have a say with what happens to this land we will be out of business. BHA has a strong,positive message and speak for hunters everywhere first. It is the mandate, unaffected by other land user groups. I am landowner,belong to the cattlemen's association and I guarantee you they speak loudly for grazing and other livestock issues but not for wildlife and wild lands. Support BHA ,imo.

Cherry pick?? Heck, you don't have to cherry pick.

I didn't have to cherry pick.
Just open up any article and read them.
Some things they are for I agree with, a lot I don't.
If you feel that they represent you then good for you.
I don't.
I will give my time and money to groups that support habitat and the welfare of game.
I'll figure out how I will hunt them without stealing private property or closing off public lands to the elderly and handicapped.

Two red herrings in one sentence, impressive!!

Could you put up a link to where the organization has this as a goal?

Not kidding if that is true I won't support them.

No, he can't.

And just as a reminder, this guy is a life member:


https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth.../1/Donald_Jr_Out_to_Monatana_to_s#UNREAD

Yep, the usual BHA defenders are all here--

You might be interested to know that BHA got a 113,000 grant in 2015 from an outfit nobody's heard of, the New Venture Fund, which has a budget (or receipts, anyway) of 314 million, more than, say the Center for American Progress.
What is NVF? Well, according to the conservative Washington Free Beacon:

"NVF represents a number of groups that push stringent environmentalist policies, such as the Fossil Fuel Reduction Project and True Friends of Coal, according to the internal documents.

It also uses donations to its subsidiaries to fund other groups that push environmental policies in ways that appeal to voters who might not share an explicit anti-fossil fuel agenda, such as Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, Trout Unlimited, and the Bull Moose Sportsmen’s Alliance, all of which received NVF grant funds in 2013."

That's from this link:
http://freebeacon.com/issues/over-100-left-wing-groups-sourced-to-d-c-dark-money-outfit/

There's some other grants, but the fact remains that anyone dumb enough to fall for BHA's sales pitch and pretend they're conservative sportsmen who understand Western public land issues (and that includes Don Junior, sadly), is either dishonest or massively deluded. These are Democratic or left wing fronts, period.

That's ironic coming from "the usual BHA detractor."



Go ahead Dave, tell us all how Don Jr. is a democrat, like you erroneously did once before.

That's solid research, LOL.

I have heard the founder and head of BCHA speak on podcasts and he is a hunter. Men like Steve Rinella and Randy Newberg, who are both by and large Conservative, but know about what it is going to take to continue one of the defining characteristics of this Republic, its outdoor heritage.

I find it tiring hearing all the Party ball washers who toe the very line that'll destroy what they love about this country.

Personally I believe there is a balance we can strike between low gas prices and beautiful wild places. There are many people who'd trade all the mountains in the west for a few bucks. Much less a few billion.

Again I ask... why we just suck it up and choose between a party who'll take our guns and a party that'll sell our public lands? Forget that I want both and I don't think we need to settle.