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I wouldn't define it as a privilege.

It a business transaction. Its no more of a privilege than shopping for navy beans at Wal-Mart.

She was a woman with two babies in a stressful situation.
A little compassion seemed warranted, something the airlines seem to be short on lately.

And the airlines put Tom, Dick and Harry in a "basic economy" where you now have to pay for the right to use an overhead bin, to check luggage, to get a pillow or blanket, headphones or a drink.

screw airlines, you treat people like cattle, expect them to act like it.

It's not now or has it ever been about getting on an airplane. It's about GETTING OFF OF AN AIRPLANE. Do the words EMERGENCY EGRESS mean anything to anyone anymore? The whole idea about keeping the aisles clear is for everyone to get off in case of an EMERGENCY.

The airlines have done a horrible job about information the public about the safety considerations of flying and getting out of a crashed airplane, ALIVE.

The steward didn't use much tact in addressing this issue but the airlines needs to put this out to the flying public light years ahead of selling ONE ticket.

kwg

Sheesh, you guys are pretty hard on a poor lady.... in spite of the fact that that video appears to be only a snapshot of the overall deal. Seriously, if you've ever seen some dude try to bring on a PVC tube full of mega-buuko fly rods, and have his fingers pried/peeled off, you know that this lady's 'upset' was small potatoes.

I'm thankful that I never have to be around large groups of people. Especially in close quarters.


God damn that would be annoying.

L

Who permitted her to get on board with what she got on board with?

Every time i board a plane they got the folks working for the airline i am flying check my boarding pass and size of carry on and then they wave me on?

If she got crap that aint allowed on, why de hail did they wave her on?

NL

Yer two dayom smert fer this dern crew.

Yeah, definitely worse than wading in cow schitt.

I have well over a million miles with United and half that with good old Continental and another million with American, Alaskan, Emirates, Quatar Air, BA, Quantas and Virgin with a number of random flights with others over a thirty year period and have never had an issue short of a personal family flight from our place north (Spokane airport) back home to the San Antonio airport with American. The incoming flight to Dallas was going to be fifteen minutes late, I queried the flight attendant and "all was good". They sold our seats, closed the doors and sent us to a hotel. I exploded to the point of having a TSA confrontation. I, frankly, was stunned with my years of flying in all sorts of goofy places that a Dallas to San Antonio flight would be my sole problem flight. Bottom line, my experiences have been pretty positive.

Everyone here who has made their way out of a crashed aircraft raise their hand.

Or stroller.

There is no opportunity to get it right the second try.

I drive with the drunks on Friday night to go fishinb to dodge the stroller caused crashes.

What is she bawling for? Acting like someone hit her kid with a car. And that flight crew needs to take control of the passengers. The lack of authority and direction was ridiculous

NL

Yeah, thats what people were recording and pissed about.

And, a testosterone charged passenger threatened to knock the flight attendant flat.

Boy, is he a knight in shining armor. What a hero.
He also committed a federal felony, assault of a flight attendant, and he should be charged.
Not the first guy who made a fool of himself, being manipulated by a female.

Basic economy is still better than first class Grayhound...

No one is forcing anyone to fly airlines...people can drive, take a bus, hitchike, take a train, RV, bicycle, boat....lots of options for people that aren't competent enough to follow simple rules.

Several people in this thread still haven't gotten the message about strollers. They ARE allowed past the door at the top of the jetbridge, all the way down to the door of the airplane.

That is where the strollers are left, for the baggage handlers to get them and load them into the belly compartment.

At the destination the strollers are brought back up the stairs by a baggage handler so that the parents can retrieve them, right there by the door of the airplane. They can then load their infant into the stroller and push the loaded stroller up the jetbridge and into the terminal.

During heavy family holiday travel periods it is not unusual to have a dozen or more strollers handled this way on a single flight.

If the passenger tries to bring a stroller onto the plane, the first flight attendant nearest the entry door has to stop them and tell them to leave the stroller outside the door. Or, in an effort to help a mom with her hands full, the flight attendant might say, "I will take the stroller for you, and have it taken downstairs. It will be brought back up to the door at our destination."

As this is happening, the entry is blocked, and the boarding process is getting delayed. Now, if the person doesn't speak English, or for some reason refuses to give up the stroller, the boarding process comes to a halt until the situation is resolved.

Remember, the agents and the flight attendants are under tremendous pressure to get the door closed on time. Regulations do not allow the door to be closed until all passengers are seated and all luggage stowed with all bins closed. A computer on the plane sends a time signal when the door is closed that confirms to the FAA and the world that the door was closed on-time, or not, and by how many minutes. If the door didn't close on time, the delay has to be accounted for, and employees are held responsible. This is quite stressful for the employees, as you can well imagine.

Things like strollers, wheelchairs, and walkers are handled like this every day. They are allowed all the way to the door of the aircraft, but they aren't permitted in the passenger cabin.

You're really struggling with this.

What rules weren't followed? Please cite them specifically.

"Strollers aren't allowed in the passenger cabin."

That seems simple enough.

Except when they are allowed...

Many strollers are small enough to fit the bins (specifically and exactly) and many airlines do not object to them... she had apparently just flown many legs with her stroller in the cabin...

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/special-assistance/traveling-children.jsp
AA-Strollers

'' Each ticketed customer is allowed 1 stroller. Only small, collapsible and light strollers (up to 20lbs/9kgs) can be checked at the gate.
Any stroller that weighs over 20lbs/9 kgs, is too large or is non−collapsible must be checked at the ticket counter.

Customers are allowed 1 stroller and 1 car seat per ticketed passenger. Both items may be checked at the ticket counter or one item
can be checked at the gate and one at the counter. These items are checked at no charge, when traveling with a child or to adopt.''



they have caught out a number of lying POS cops, so cant be all that bad.
better still maybe EVERYONE should wear a bodycam these days...