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I think we could win that war with a pile of cheeseburgers. Half that country is starving and the other half is worried about a firing squad.
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I'd be surprised if NK has 10K artillery pieces that could range Seoul from the other side of the DMZ.
We're talking about 30 miles at the closest possible point.
Makes a good headline for the hand-wringers though. My knowledge of artillary is about thirty years dated. To my knowledge, even rocket boosted 155 shells do not reach 30 mile targets, Is this still correct? Of course this leaves his arsenal of rockets and whatever missiles he has managed to make functional. You're still probably decades ahead. The Norks seem to be trapped in a shítty version of 1958.
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A lot of the Republican Guard dropped their weapons and ran or raised a white flag. I personally don't think the Norks would do that. Way to brained washed or terrified of being caugbt.
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j A lot of the Republican Guard dropped their weapons and ran or raised a white flag. I personally don't think the Norks would do that. Way to brained washed or terrified of being caugbt. We never dreamed the Iraquis would either. We won't know until it happens. The Norks might drop their weapons at the sight of full bowl of rice. On the other hand, they might fight like the Japanese on the islands of the South Pacific.
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North Korea seems to be in much worse shape than it was in 1950. I don't think China and Russia will be the allies they were in 1950 either.
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Chicom infused MLR's would be the main threat IMO with their range of 80-200 km depending on which mods were in use and would reek havoc for awhile until found and neutralized.
Having been deployed to the peninsula even though many moons ago I don't take their threats lightly especially dealing with a 1.5 million man army which BTW is no cake walk or easy task even with our overwhelming air assets.
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IIRC, the OP mentioned "pre-emptive strike" and intelligence. Sounds do-able to me.
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Thanks Woody,
Is there any chance, with today's tech, that we do not already have each one identified and targeted?
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Everyone seems to think NK would be a pushover. We were there 65 years ago.
The Middle East is a quagmire and our military's capabilities have them beat 100:1.
No war is going to be easy. I do believe if we can change the ROE and toss political correctness out the window, it will go considerably better. I'm not sure where that would leave us in the eyes of the rest of the world.
People have been killing people since before the first weapon was invented. I'm becoming more of an isolationist as these "wars for profit" are taking the lives of our brave men and women.
Controversy makes certain people a LOT of money. It will not stop.
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Is there any chance, with today's tech, that we do not already have each one identified and targeted?
I wouldn't go as far to say each one but I'm quite sure we have a good idea especially from our bumper to bumper Sat intel over many years. I may be 100% wrong but don't see this escalating into an all out shooting war.The Norks would get their first licks in then know they'd be bombed back to the Stone Age.
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The little fat fuqk reminds me of Saddam Husein, He has no idea of the world around him nor does he have any idea of the military power other than what he posses.
He will try to launch on SK just like Saddam did with Israel.
He is going to be a problem no doubt but he will be dealt with in a very short period of time. You got that rigbt. The little buggers elevator does not go to the top floor. I can't remember who it was that interviewed Saddam but he was asked why he throws his political enemies into prison and he retorted back that President Bush did the same thing here in America, the reporter told him that he was wrong and that people were allowed to criticize President Bush and they were not thrown into prison. The look of disbelief on Saddams face was priceless, he had no idea that criticism of the president was allowed. I think the little phat fuqkers world is just as small.
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j A lot of the Republican Guard dropped their weapons and ran or raised a white flag. I personally don't think the Norks would do that. Way to brained washed or terrified of being caugbt. We never dreamed the Iraquis would either. We won't know until it happens. The Norks might drop their weapons at the sight of full bowl of rice. On the other hand, they might fight like the Japanese on the islands of the South Pacific. I don't remember if it was on Laura I, or on Hannity, or some other talk radio, but they were talking about these women who had escaped NK, and they indicated they would much rather die than face whatever being returned would mean. They also said it was not uncommon for NKoreans to risk being killed in the process of getting a bowl of food. If we played our cards right, 'taking' NK might easily be a very simple deal; just get their persecutors out of the way first.
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How do they roll it out if the rails are damaged? I don't know and I'm not certain the artillery pieces are mobile. I got that piece of information from someone who studied the nork's artillery capabilities.
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I'd be surprised if NK has 10K artillery pieces that could range Seoul from the other side of the DMZ.
We're talking about 30 miles at the closest possible point.
Makes a good headline for the hand-wringers though. My knowledge of artillary is about thirty years dated. To my knowledge, even rocket boosted 155 shells do not reach 30 mile targets, Is this still correct? Of course this leaves his arsenal of rockets and whatever missiles he has managed to make functional. My artillery knowledge is becoming dated too. I'm 13 years out. But I'm guessing if he has 10K serviceable howitzers, (a big if), and if some of them are able to range Seoul, they would just about have to be set up wheel-to-wheel in a fairly small piece of real estate to mass fires on Seoul. It would make a very lucrative target.
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I don't think the winner of this dirty skirmish is in doubt.
The political play is, who will take in the (all ready) starving millions of generational indoctrinated refuges?
Ivanka?
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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I don't think the winner of this dirty skirmish is in doubt.
The political play is, who will take in the (all ready) starving millions of generational indoctrinated refuges?
Ivanka?
Actually I'd much rather take in Korean refugees, at least they have a yearning to be free. Besides, for the most part the women are gorgeous.
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Does have the smell of Sadam back before the big sand storm(s).
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I don't think the winner of this dirty skirmish is in doubt.
The political play is, who will take in the (all ready) starving millions of generational indoctrinated refuges?
Ivanka?
Actually I'd much rather take in Korean refugees, at least they have a yearning to be free. "Yearning to be free"? NK is a deeply structured cult of citizenry. Winning hearts and minds won't fly (again).
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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Biden didn't win the election.
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Plain and simple, somebody needs to B1tch slap him.
How to do it with minimal harm to civilians is another story.
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The Chinese, absolutely, do not want them on the monetary or cultural ledger.
SK is too long removed tribally and economically to reunite.
This is not on the scale of the (thousands) Syrians, Somalis , or Hmong "crisis"...
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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Biden didn't win the election.
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