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watching Nancy Pewlosi rant (muted of course),,, is she one of those people who, if you tied their hands behind them, would be mute?
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Paul Ryan is actually giving and impassioned speech o pass whatever this nw thing is. Should I be worried? 
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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Won't all the stock these politicians (both sides) bought in these favored companies loose value?
The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.
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Pack of jackals they be. 10,000' of water and 50# of rock would cure what ails us if properly utilized. Call it the "replace" part of the proposed amendment.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Those SOB's have to vote first to EXEMPT THEMSELVES from what they are going to pass for us...
Sorry SOB's.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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It passed. Will die in the senate. They won't go nuclear.
It's about like this:
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"NAZI!!!"
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Those SOB's have to vote first to EXEMPT THEMSELVES from what they are going to pass for us...
Sorry SOB's. This, as well as ALL federal employees or the entire bill is simply more drivel . . .
Someday I hope to be the person my dogs think I am . . .
The only true cost of having a dog is its death.
Someone once said "a nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves."
Shiloh Sharps . . . there is no substitute.
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Politic bullchit is all it is, they don't want to face their constituents with the fact that they didn't "try" to kill Ocare...still will give up their seats in 18 to D's. It's a tax bill for the top 400 richest in the US, call it what it is.
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Senate will make a change and send it back to the House. House will act upset and won't pass it.
Trump will blame Congress, House will blame the Senate, Senate will blame the House. The finger-pointing begins and Americans lose.
More Kabuki theatre.
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watching Nancy Pewlosi rant (muted of course),,, is she one of those people who, if you tied their hands behind them, would be mute? Worth a try.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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Let's all expose what we are seeing here for it is. Obamacare is Phase I of national health care. When you "make" everybody have "insurance" but subsidize or give away some premiums, the government is dictating the system.
The very fact that insurance companies are forced to cover pre-existing conditions makes this government controlled healthcare. I could not have medical insurance, get diagnosed with cancer, and sign up for health insurance tomorrow. The insurance company is paying for my treatment, but I never put anything into the system. That is not how "insurance" works. That is how socialized medicine works.
It is here, and it is here forever. You will never see enough votes to do away with pre-existing conditions or premium subsidies. Never. The system will soon crash because premiums will become so prohibitive that employers will be sending everyone to the exchange. I will do that on all new employee hires from now on. Costs my 6 person stafaf $10,000/yr each for me. No more. Once that becomes the norm, the system will not have enough money it, and it will fail and be replaced by National Health Care which you will pay for with a separate VAT like in England.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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So 10 guys at the WH presser jump up and all say the exact same thing.......verbatim!!!
Proud to be a true Sandlapper!!
Go Nats!!!!
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Let's all expose what we are seeing here for it is. Obamacare is Phase I of national health care. When you "make" everybody have "insurance" but subsidize or give away some premiums, the government is dictating the system.
The very fact that insurance companies are forced to cover pre-existing conditions makes this government controlled healthcare. I could not have medical insurance, get diagnosed with cancer, and sign up for health insurance tomorrow. The insurance company is paying for my treatment, but I never put anything into the system. That is not how "insurance" works. That is how socialized medicine works.
It is here, and it is here forever. You will never see enough votes to do away with pre-existing conditions or premium subsidies. Never. The system will soon crash because premiums will become so prohibitive that employers will be sending everyone to the exchange. I will do that on all new employee hires from now on. Costs my 6 person stafaf $10,000/yr each for me. No more. Once that becomes the norm, the system will not have enough money it, and it will fail and be replaced by National Health Care which you will pay for with a separate VAT like in England. I agree. It won't go away. Fact is though repealing won't fix whats broken anyway. Until something is done to address the cost of healthcare, not insurance, it's all a waste of damn time.
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Politic bullchit is all it is, they don't want to face their constituents with the fact that they didn't "try" to kill Ocare...still will give up their seats in 18 to D's. It's a tax bill for the top 400 richest in the US, call it what it is. Somewhat like calling you what you are? 
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Politic bullchit is all it is, they don't want to face their constituents with the fact that they didn't "try" to kill Ocare...still will give up their seats in 18 to D's. It's a tax bill for the top 400 richest in the US, call it what it is. Somewhat like calling you what you are? GFY azzhole, just following me around like the troll turd you are...get a life.
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Nothing but a charade. Wake me when something material happens - like doing away with the mandate, uhhh, I mean the penalty. Dangit...wrong again - the personal responsibility tax!
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Amen Mooner it isn't about insurance . Make it so people can affore dr's and hospitals and insurance wouldn't be a big deal!!!
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Amen Mooner it isn't about insurance . Make it so people can affore dr's and hospitals and insurance wouldn't be a big deal!!!
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