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The 7.62x39 is far superior in all respects except one...
The BLK uses the far better range of .308 calibre bullets. Other than that I can't see why you'd pick the BLK, unless you're shooting suppressed. .308 bullets are far superior to 7.62 bullets?? Who knew.
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.308 vs .311 there is a difference.
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The 7.62x39 is far superior in all respects except one...
The BLK uses the far better range of .308 calibre bullets. Other than that I can't see why you'd pick the BLK, unless you're shooting suppressed. .308 bullets are far superior to 7.62 bullets?? Who knew. How many component bullets are available in .308" and how many in .311"?
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The 7.62x39 is far superior in all respects except one...
The BLK uses the far better range of .308 calibre bullets. Other than that I can't see why you'd pick the BLK, unless you're shooting suppressed. .308 bullets are far superior to 7.62 bullets?? Who knew. I can't see where I said that Smoky.
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A wise man is frequently humbled.
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I'm building one now, just waiting on my guard to come in. Will be for night hunting (hogs) without all the noise. Reloads pretty cheap.
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Is it not funny how folks compare lesser rounds to the 30-30, but would not be caught dead shooting a 30-30.
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Sort of a mind that trying to make something do what it was never intended for is a silly pursuit. There are applications for the BO that are useful, but it isn't magic and never will be. One decides they want to go down the subsonic/suppressed trail it's a dandy in the proper platform. Given the choices out there in the marketplace these days it makes little sense to me to run one supersonic. There are many alternatives far better, and that includes the .30-30 in a wide variety of platforms. Basic purpose of subs is quiet and to have any usefulness they need to be very accurate, whether the target is big game or the most dangerous game. Fella that has another agenda has been feeding on the hype and put his brain in neutral.
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You could not run fast enough to give me a 300 blackout.
I am however tickled pink about the Hodgdon CFE BLK powder that came out.
20.6 grains behind a 40 grain V max is just right in the 224 Blackout. 3500 or so FPS and under an inch, usually .75.
Its like 300 fps faster than the Reloader 7 load I use.
Sometimes the new things that come out have benefits for us.
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I bought it in the Ruger American platform to have a low recoil deer rifle based off of the 223 cartridge. I hunt small properties, and like the idea of a lower sound and lower power rifle. It still has enough pop for deer at woods ranges and uses very little powder. It will never replace my 308, but is all I need for deer in a very compact and easy handling package. OK, this is a good reason to have it....otherwise I will stick to my 30-30
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You could not run fast enough to give me a 300 blackout.
I am however tickled pink about the Hodgdon CFE BLK powder that came out.
20.6 grains behind a 40 grain V max is just right in the 224 Blackout. 3500 or so FPS and under an inch, usually .75.
Its like 300 fps faster than the Reloader 7 load I use.
Sometimes the new things that come out have benefits for us. Hey Jim, thanks for that tip... I'll have to pick up some and give it a whirl.
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I like it so far.
The only trouble I have is how fine granulated it is. Its probably finer than table salt! Maybe finer than Ramshot Tac.
I had to modify the .17 caliber adapter on my Uniflow to get it into the cases without making a mess. The new updated quick change adapters with the o rings for the Uniflow are oversize it seems. The old screw in types were better.
I use a lot of 322 and 335, as well as Reloader 7 and 8208, they seem just big enough to bridge the gap.
I have not tried CFE BLK in my .17 Blackout, there did not seem to be a big enough gain to try it.
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I like my Noveske AR in 300 blackout. Started fooling with the 300 whisper on a contender in 1999. Bought a suppressor in 2001. Always reloaded. Sold the 300 barrel from the Contender buy will never sell the AR. I hunt on my small farm in VA. I hunt suppressed all the time as to not bother the neighbors. I don't keep count but surely the family and I have taken over 100 deer with my or their rifles in 300 blackout. So far no cripples or Run Offs. Hit em in the chest with the right bullet and they usually die on the spot or within 50 yds. I have a lab that tracks better than me. I do shoot my .308 suppressed when I hunt my brother's farm as he has quite a few Black Bear that seem to elude me every year.
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To sell more black rifles....it has its place I'm sure but I hav to found it yet...
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The BO is a good cartridge to suppress, other than that its of very little use in the hunting or shooting world.
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I have one in a Ruger American Ranch. It fits the bill nicely for an all-around rifle for Indiana. Deer, coyotes, groundhogs, and it's easy on the shoulder and the steel targets. A pinch of H110 or Lil Gun underneath a 125gr SST and you can kill just about anything that needs killin' around here at reasonable distances. I have a 30-30 and a 300 Savage as well, but the 300 BLK is just a fun little rifle.
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With a 900 fps sub followed by a 1800 fps super a half second later you can hit 'em twice at once at 300 yds.
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