Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Elk Hunting 180 Swift A Frame does its job perfectly!

I accompanied my brother on a cow elk hunt Saturday. One shot from the .30-06 with a 180 grain Swift A Frame (Remington Safari Load) and she was done. The shot was a 355 yards per the Leica readout and was perfectly placed through the "on shoulder" and exited through ribs on the opposite side leaving a hole slightly larger than a golfball.

She took a few steps and then just keeled over backwards and slid down the hill. I was proud of him as this is his first elk and second big game animal. He put that shot in there perfectly.

Based on this experience, I would wholeheartedly recommend the Swift A Frame as a very good bullet (My Accubonds from the 7mm RM did the same thing last winter in the exact same canyon).

Anyways, I know many of you like to hear of these types of success stories and so I thought that I would share. Great hunt and I am definitely glad to be done and even more relieved to have the meat off the mountain and in good shape.

Firehawk

Big Green was wise to offer that bullet in their safari offering.Never heard a bad thing about the A-Frames.Thanks for the post.

Congrat's to both of you! Sounds like a nice shot and some great eating!!!

A fellow in the same hunting camp as me this past November shot a bull with his .300 Win Mag with two 200 grain A-Frames. He made two perfect shots, just a couple of inches apart, right through the lungs. The elk didn't go too far, but when we skinned the thing, no one could tell which were the entry holes and which were the exits.

Those Swift bullets, have worked great for me and others I know of.

The second animal I ever took in the US was a pronghorn in Wyoming, taken with my .30/06 loaded with 180gn Swift A-frames.

The shot was taken prone at around 400 yards and required a couple of inches holdover with the bullet hitting low in shoulder, angling the chest taking out the heart and exiting behind the off shoulder.

It was a very accurate combination in that rifle often shooting way under .5MOA. One group I shot under witness from several industry people measured under .3 MOA for 3 shots on a Wyoming range outside Casper.

AGW

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That's a good report.

I'm not surprised at those Swift A-Frame results. The A-Frame has to be one of the all-time best hunting bullets I've ever used, and you can count on it to do its job 100% of the time, and under all condiditons. I trust it completely.......

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Congrats on your elk. Haven't tried the Swift A-Frames but I've been seriously considering doing so.

An A-Frame does its job. Who'd a thunk it?

A-Frames, Trophy Bonded and North Fork all have simialr designs up front where the action is. Haven't seen one fail yet.

I took four moose, one black bear, a boar and a roe deer with A-frames this year, and I only recovered one bullet. The bull was quatering towards me at 150 meters, and the bullet was found by the butcher close to the hip. (250 grs A-frame from a 9,3x62). Very little meat damage on all animals I have ever taken with this bullet, but of course I am only using normal calibers.

four moose in one year?
You must have a big freezer!!

Love the bullet...
hate the low BC.

I think they are a good but I had results I did not expect with them.I shot them in 200 gr out of a 8mm rem mag and on deer they blew everything apart and there was a ton of bloodshot.One was a whitetail buck this past season at 200 yds. And another was a doe tag.Both had gigantic exit holes and a ton of ruined blood shot meat.I was a little shocked because I know the A-Frame has a great reputation

weird-sounds more like core-lokts.

I've taken over fifty head of animals with the A Frame from Cape Buffalo to whitetail and it is the best bullet I've ever used. I won't use them again on deer as they are not nessesary and they are expensive, but for bigger animals it just doesn't get any better than the A Frame. jorge

I agree with you on the "not nessesary for smaller game" part Jorge, but if you down-load A-frames a little, they are quite gentle with the meat. I have used 165 grs A-frames in my 30-06 loaded to about 2400 ft with great results on very light game (around 20-30 pounds. Samll exits wounds and very little bloody meat.

Another good thing about A-frames is that you can use lighter bullets and get more velocity. I am thinking about going with 120 grs A-frames in my 6,5x55 loaded to about 2700 ft this fall. A friend of one of my hunting-buddys shot a couple of moose calfs with this load last fall with great results. I was not planning to use this load on moose, but on smaller game like goats, sheep and the small and medium sized deer-species it should to the job perfect.

Exactly.

I know I'm picking at gnats here and on most counts it's a great bullet...and, you might say my criticism is nullified by AW's long range shot (and others' I'm sure) but, the b.c. due to that blunt nose does does arguably compromise it a bit at long range.

A synthetic/polymer tip maybe? Just a thought.

I've never shot anything much past 200 yds. with the Swift A-Frame, but it's true that the more blunt nose profile of the Swift does not do quite so well at long range as a something with a higher BC, such as the Nosler Partition spitzer. But in practice, however, I'm not sure it makes much difference.

I've made some very long shots with the flat-nose 180 gr. Nosler Partition Protected-Point (about the same profile as the A-Frame) out of my 300 Win. Mag. in Africa as well as NA, and I never felt handicapped with it, even for extended-range shots on Coues deer and pronghorn.

The strong suit of the A-Frame is terminal performance, and it is indeed a spectacular performer on big game, as Jorge indicated and knows so very well. Quite honestly, I've never used a better, more predictable, or more reliable bullet than the A-Frame, and whatever I've hit with it out of my 416 Rem. Mag. or 338 Win. Mag. has gone DOWN and without fuss, provided I shot well. I have quite a few A-Frames that I've recovered from game, and they're all remarkably uniform, plus they have all-copper jackets and they don't drive pressures up the way a bullet like the longer TSXs can.............

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I have never used the A-Frame, relying on Nos Parts for most of my hunting up to a few years ago but I always remember what Bob Hagel wrote in one of his books when they first came out. He wrote that they had a tendancy to rivet in his experience. I imagine like everything else and apparently from the good experiences represented here, these weaknesses have been worked out a long time ago.