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At your experience level, how about just sticking with book loads, starting low and working up slowly. Don't develop bad habits.

Continue using 3031, or ANY other powder without following pressure tested data in your 6.5 Creed and you will likely be receiving your Darwin posthumously!

Get a couple of reloading manuals and work up a load following their pressure tested data and reloading procedures as outlined in those manuals.

READ THE DAMN MANUALS!!! Better yet, use only factory ammo. You are endangering not only yourself but anyone else who maybe near you.

Could Persiandog be a troll?? Find it hard to believe he could be as stupid as he appears to be....just don't see any learning going on here.

Persiandog,

I found some more info for you in an old IMR Manual. It has the 140 grain Remington and few others for you. The load data is for a 260 Remington which has a slightly higher case capacity so reduce it and work up.

What precisely does this mean?

I've worked with combinations that were unpublished but I've been at this a long time.

Don't tangle with differential equations before you have a handle on freshman algebra.

Actually, it is very bad advice to load without data for that specific cartridge, especially for a new shooter. Get a manual or two, a good scale, start at the minimum load and work up. Go buy some powder that’s shown on those loading tables for the bullet weight you will use.

Don’t shoot the remaining loads, pull the bullets and start over.

Not a troll . I get the manuals and follow the instructions , next week I'll post the results.
you guys making me so proud :-)





my math skills are a lot better than my reloading , and I am very good at partial differential equations , let me know if you have any questions and i'll partially answer it.

P/Dog...

Barm"s info posted is the source I used in coming up with a max of 32.5 grains...for 3031...

I'd say with the Creed, and your lack of experience... if you want to use 3031, which I think is a fine
powder.... then set the max at 30 grains for your Creedmoor....with a 140 grain bullet..

if you want max velocity with a 140, from your rifle... then I'd consider H 4831SC...

but using the IMR 4831 data above.. I'd recommend starting at 40 grains and
work up to a max charge of 42.5 grains...a mag primer wouldn't be needed...

keep a charge at 40 grains for IMR 4831 or H 4831SC, for a 140... then you will stay out of
danger and trouble...

If you need more velocity for some reason, in a 6.5, then consider another cartridge...

trying to turn a 6.5 Creedmoor into a 6.5/06 or a 264 Win Mag, is going to get you hurt or worse...
keep your life insurance policy paid up for the wife.... she might need it...

this is great , I will also load a few rounds with IMR4350 just for comparison.

If that's the case then you understand my advice.

I'm a PhD in math, but I haven't "practiced professionally" in a while. I'll let you know if I get stuck.

Persiandog , you have fallen into the trap that catches many new reloaders, that is, they try to get the absolute maximum velocity out of their rifle with the first load, and use the most powder they can possibly cram in, or, they use the wrong powder, or, they go to the hottest load in the book and start there.

ALWAYS, start low and work up. ALWAYS use the powders recommended in the manuals. ALWAYS subtract 10% from the maximum quoted loads to start with. ALWAYS load for best accuracy, not for absolute fastest load.

May I recommend you get a couple or three good reloading books and READ THEM CAREFULLY, several times? Respectfullly, you need all the help you can get before you hurt yourself or others.

Pdog,

If you REALLY followed the manuals instructions the questions you posed by this thread would NEVER have been asked!

Very funny. According to the admission of the OP your prophecy may come to fruition.

The only time I suffered a stuck bolt aside from too much powder was too much WipeOut that found its way into my chamber. What a fiasco that was.

HaHaHaHaHa

ETA: i first read it as. "is that a bad load?"

struck my funny bone.

[quote=Seafire]P/Dog...

Barm"s info posted is the source I used in coming up with a max of 32.5 grains...for 3031...

I'd say with the Creed, and your lack of experience... if you want to use 3031, which I think is a fine
powder.... then set the max at 30 grains for your Creedmoor....with a 140 grain bullet..

if you want max velocity with a 140, from your rifle... then I'd consider H 4831SC...

but using the IMR 4831 data above.. I'd recommend starting at 40 grains and
work up to a max charge of 42.5 grains...a mag primer wouldn't be needed...

keep a charge at 40 grains for IMR 4831 or H 4831SC, for a 140... then you will stay out of
danger and trouble...


If you need more velocity for some reason, in a 6.5, then consider another cartridge...

trying to turn a 6.5 Creedmoor into a 6.5/06 or a 264 Win Mag, is going to get you hurt or worse...
keep your life insurance policy paid up for the wife.... she might need it...[/quot


H4831SC works excellent in my 6.5X 55 Tikka.I use 143ELDx with that powder for sub 1" groups at 200 yards.My Son killed two Mule deer with that at 350 yardsDRT and 225 yards DRT.Some good stuff for sure.

There's only so much one can do and you reach a point at which you throw your hands up and shake your head at the boat lunch.

I just noticed this thread, and will report that I had the same thing happen with a new Howa 1500 6.5 Creedmoor and Hornady Match ammo. First round fired I had to pound the bolt open. I've fired two boxes of factory ammo and the bolt is still sticky. And, yes, I know how to prep a new rifle. Thorough cleaning and greased the lugs and camming surfaces. The rifle was checked by my gunsmith who bore scoped it and said the chamber, etc. looked good.

I'm not sure what to make of it, but it's interesting that another shooter had a similar experience.

Edited to add: Nothing looks unusual with the fired brass, no flat primers, etc.

Paul

The other shooter was using a heavy overload.

In your case, assuming the factory ammo is OK, I'll ask does the hole in the bolt face for the plunger ejector have a sharp edge?

I checked the brass and all looked ok , I do agree mine was overloaded but I expected to see some expansion on the brass.
the last time it got stock , I couldn't force it to open. someone at range tried to use a rubber mallet and didn't work.
took the gun home and after many gentle tries got it open. but everything look good !

Looks OK. Nothing about the bolt face seems out of the ordinary.

I've used two different lots and types of Hornady ammo. Haven't had one stick hard since the first round, but the bolt is very stiff, especially on the rear pull to extract. Lift isn't too bad.