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[quote=Seafire]P/Dog...
Barm"s info posted is the source I used in coming up with a max of 32.5 grains...for 3031...
I'd say with the Creed, and your lack of experience... if you want to use 3031, which I think is a fine
powder.... then set the max at 30 grains for your Creedmoor....with a 140 grain bullet..
if you want max velocity with a 140, from your rifle... then I'd consider H 4831SC...
but using the IMR 4831 data above.. I'd recommend starting at 40 grains and
work up to a max charge of 42.5 grains...a mag primer wouldn't be needed...
keep a charge at 40 grains for IMR 4831 or H 4831SC, for a 140... then you will stay out of
danger and trouble...
If you need more velocity for some reason, in a 6.5, then consider another cartridge...
trying to turn a 6.5 Creedmoor into a 6.5/06 or a 264 Win Mag, is going to get you hurt or worse...
keep your life insurance policy paid up for the wife.... she might need it...[/quot
H4831SC works excellent in my 6.5X 55 Tikka.I use 143ELDx with that powder for sub 1" groups at 200 yards.My Son killed two Mule deer with that at 350 yardsDRT and 225 yards DRT.Some good stuff for sure.
thanks , I will follow instructions next time :-) . I searched google for this topic and it returned many entries. looks like there are a lot of idiots out there :-) I am not trolling : ![[Linked Image]](https://cdn-files.apstatic.com/climb/110469252_medium_1494351323.jpg)
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Hodgdon doesn't even list IMR3031 for the 6.5 Creed.
Where the snarf are you getting your load data?
Lucky you didn't do more than stick the bolt.....
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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I'm wondering how many 74,000 psi loads can be fired in a rifle before it is no longer safe with any load. Well, we could always ask the guys shooting RL26 without any data....
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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I've read this thread several times. I can't look away....
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Guess I'll be the odd man out...
Mr. Persiandog,
Kudos to you sir! You have embraced the American spirit of rugged individualism and blazing your own path. If no one took chances we'd never have put a man on the moon, split the atom, elected a black president or cured cancer! Carry on you courageous bastard...America! [bleep] yeah!
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Reload a 45 70. 405 grain bullet in a Ruger model I
Then report back please.
merry Christmas!
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"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country."
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Guess I'll be the odd man out...
Mr. Persiandog,
Kudos to you sir! You have embraced the American spirit of rugged individualism and blazing your own path. If no one took chances we'd never have put a man on the moon, split the atom, elected a black president or cured cancer! Carry on you courageous bastard...America! [bleep] yeah! I will pee into the wind and run with scissors just to show it can be done . we need to make America great again.
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Your face should be on Rushmore my friend!
(And it might wind up there if you keep reloading)
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Your face should be on Rushmore my friend!
(And it might wind up there if you keep reloading) imagine that , right next to George Washington (1732–1799), Thomas Jefferson (1743–1826), Theodore Roosevelt (1858–1919), and Abraham Lincoln (1809–1865). Persiandog(1953-not dead yet) I will keep reloading !
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Your face should be on Rushmore my friend!
(And it might wind up there if you keep reloading) imagine that , right next to George Washington (1732–1799), Thomas Jefferson (1743–1826), Theodore Roosevelt (1858–1919), and Abraham Lincoln (1809–1865). Persiandog(1953-not dead yet) I will keep reloading ! Don't get too encouraged.......
"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country."
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We once again prove that there are two kinds of people in the world, those who go to boat ramps to scoff and jeer, and those who go to help others learn. And those ol' boys at the boat ramp can be cruel. 
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Quick Loads puts that load at 74,000 psi. Is that a book load? It's in Revelations. This is greatness.
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Guess I'll be the odd man out...
Mr. Persiandog,
Kudos to you sir! You have embraced the American spirit of rugged individualism and blazing your own path. If no one took chances we'd never have put a man on the moon, split the atom, elected a black president or cured cancer! Carry on you courageous bastard...America! [bleep] yeah! Sounds pretty much like the development of the .44 Magnum.
Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.
Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe)
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We once again prove that there are two kinds of people in the world, those who go to boat ramps to scoff and jeer, and those who go to help others learn. There's only so much one can do and you reach a point at which you throw your hands up and shake your head at the boat lunch. ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/snpaules/image001.jpg) About what I'd expect from an Obama supporter; they are clueless.
He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
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Persian Dog, you are ok in my book.
You f'd the pooch, but accept that and seem willing to learn.
You have taken your licks here with humor and grace, go forth and
load some more. Be a lot more careful, you are not likely to kill yourself,
but losing eyes or digits is very possible.
Having the headspace was a good suggestion.
At least try some scotch tape or a shim on new brass to
get a SWAG about it.
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I'm wondering how many 74,000 psi loads can be fired in a rifle before it is no longer safe with any load. Well, we could always ask the guys shooting RL26 without any data.... 
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Guess I'll be the odd man out...
Mr. Persiandog,
Kudos to you sir! You have embraced the American spirit of rugged individualism and blazing your own path. If no one took chances we'd never have put a man on the moon, split the atom, elected a black president or cured cancer! Carry on you courageous bastard...America! [bleep] yeah! This.... and I thought the Book of Revelation was the top post.
I used to only shoot shotguns and rimfires, then I made the mistake of getting a subscription to handloader.......
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Persian Dog, you are ok in my book.
You f'd the pooch, but accept that and seem willing to learn.
You have taken your licks here with humor and grace, go forth and
load some more. Be a lot more careful, you are not likely to kill yourself,
but losing eyes or digits is very possible.
Having the headspace was a good suggestion.
At least try some scotch tape or a shim on new brass to
get a SWAG about it. thanks for all encouraging remarks and emails and PM-s . I'll try again this weekend. based on a few PM-s , there might be a problem with bolt in addition to my overloading.
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