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who decides the value of the property?


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California had lost a Supreme Court case regarding prison over crowding and was told to release 60,000 felon almost immediately (side question; Why does California produce so many criminals?).

So 60,000 felons were transferred to County Jails, where by statute only misdemeanants were housed. That broiled into another court case so "The Safer Neighborhood and Schools Act", or Prop 47, was connived. This would change "certain non violent felonies" into misdemeanors. Convicts then could then have their rights restored and get out of jail as many had already spent more than twelve months behind bars. Yippee!

It was sold to the non reading/thinking voter as a way to save money that "might be spent to make schools safer". Of course none was spent on schools but on satisfying the Federal Government's case against California.

As a result of this and many other well intended but poorly thought out decisions, property crime has exploded here.


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Of course after January if you build or buy an "assault style" firearm, you have committed a felony. But if you steal it and it is under $950.00, you have committed only a misdemeanor. And according to another Supreme Court decision, you cannot be charged with failing to register it, as that would be a 5th amendment right (for felons only).


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Now I understand where the seed came from for Alaska’s SB91.


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Caining would solve this "overcrowding."
Whipping a few asses would drop crime rates substantially too.

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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
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Grand theft(felony) in CA is $950 or more.




and driving a stolen car worth 950 or less is a misdemeanor grin





As well as burglary and theft of a firearms, if the loss is under $950. Personal use of heroin and meth are also now misdemeanors. They are "non violent" crimes, ya know.


How on earth do you police such a place, Ranger?
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Is the $950 value calculated after they destroy the car running from the Police or the Value before the chase started.

That will be the argument for the Attorneys to get their law breaking clients off on a Misdemeanor instead of the Felony.

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Originally Posted by Dave_in_WV
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Very good answer!


agreed !


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Originally Posted by 340boy
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Grand theft(felony) in CA is $950 or more.




and driving a stolen car worth 950 or less is a misdemeanor grin





As well as burglary and theft of a firearms, if the loss is under $950. Personal use of heroin and meth are also now misdemeanors. They are "non violent" crimes, ya know.


How on earth do you police such a place, Ranger?
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Carefully. The people in charge would rather put a guy like behind bars rather than a criminal (of color).


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Originally Posted by funshooter
Is the $950 value calculated after they destroy the car running from the Police or the Value before the chase started.

That will be the argument for the Attorneys to get their law breaking clients off on a Misdemeanor instead of the Felony.


Exactly, and I can't think that popping out the ignition with a screwdriver does anything to enhance the value. Also, what about car-jacking (with a Hi-Point?)?


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Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
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Grand theft(felony) in CA is $950 or more.




and driving a stolen car worth 950 or less is a misdemeanor grin





As well as burglary and theft of a firearms, if the loss is under $950. Personal use of heroin and meth are also now misdemeanors. They are "non violent" crimes, ya know.


How on earth do you police such a place, Ranger?
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Carefully. The people in charge would rather put a guy like behind bars rather than a criminal (of color).


And that is a sad state of affairs. It may not mean much, but I make it a point to always wave or say hello to any LEO that I see. I get some funny looks from other motorists, but I figure it's the least I can do to show my support.

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Originally Posted by River_Ridge
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Is the $950 value calculated after they destroy the car running from the Police or the Value before the chase started.

That will be the argument for the Attorneys to get their law breaking clients off on a Misdemeanor instead of the Felony.


Exactly, and I can't think that popping out the ignition with a screwdriver does anything to enhance the value. Also, what about car-jacking (with a Hi-Point?)?



BUT BUT BUT the Ignition was that was when I got in the Car
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It could be argued that the theft of a $900 car has a greater impact on the victim than the theft of a $9000 car. The owner of the $9000 car gets a rental car through their insurance, receives a settlement check (less deductable) purchases another car and life goes on. The owner of the $900 car is not insured against theft. If they cannot arrange transportation to work they lose their job.

Older cars are easier to steal. Now you have government making policy that encourages the theft of older cars.
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People convicted of felonies can’t vote. It’s a safe bet that most people stealing $900 cars, or $9000 one for that matter, aren’t from the demographics that tend to vote conservative. This is just California’s democratic ran legislature taking care of their main constituency.

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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
People convicted of felonies can’t vote. It’s a safe bet that most people stealing $900 cars, or $9000 one for that matter, aren’t from the demographics that tend to vote conservative. This is just California’s democratic ranlegislature taking care of their main constituency.


Exactly this. The legislature does not represent the law abiding, productive population of this state, and is doing all it can to drive those people out. This whole situation is a great argument to reduce the franchise in some manner, so the parasites aren't able to make themselves into a voting constituency that the politicians are tempted to please.

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Who determines whether the car is worth $949 or the $951 that I say its worth? Never mind. I think I know the answer.


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Where is the meme of the liberal bitch getting maced in the face by riot police? wink


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