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Let's bump this up, as our resident elk expert, MCMXI, is posting again.
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Must be taking a break from studying all those gaussian distributions. That's not normal.
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At least it's not Cauchy, then you wouldn't know what to expect.
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I plan on using a 140 grain Swift A frame on a late September elk hunt in a pre-64 Model 70 featherweight. I'm not worried with either the bullet or the rifle. 413 Measured yards. It came with ~3' of backstrap per side. That's a metal yardstick for reference. That back strap is as impressive as the the antlers........! Looking at that back strap makes me hungry
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Let's bump this up, as our resident elk expert, MCMXI, is posting again. Who is MCMXI?
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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This thread reminds me of high school.
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Let's bump this up, as our resident elk expert, MCMXI, is posting again. Who is MCMXI? Check out his posts earlier in this thread.
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Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association
Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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I understand now.
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This Michigan bull didn't seem to like the 150 grn core-lokt out of my .270. I would have used 150 grn Nosler Partitions, but at the time I was shopping I couldn't find any in stock. How far did it run to find that open area to die in.
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This Michigan bull didn't seem to like the 150 grn core-lokt out of my .270. I would have used 150 grn Nosler Partitions, but at the time I was shopping I couldn't find any in stock. How far did it run to find that open area to die in. About 6 steps.
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Szhin, i wouldnt hesitate to use a 243 with a good bullet on any elk, but i would limit my shot choices as MD previously stated.
I would think a better choice would be a bigger cal and heavier bullet due to, as you say, any bullet that can break through bone and get the job done.
Do you not think a bigger, heavier GOOD bullet cant do that better?
What would do better on a big bull quartering away go7ng over a ridge at 350 yards where the, dare we say, perfect hit is not made and the hit is in a hindquarter and needs to get through the abdomen and into the chest cavity?
I will agree, a 22 or 9 mm is just as deadly as a 45, if you hit a man between the eyes. In WW2 Im glad my uncle had a 45.
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This Michigan bull didn't seem to like the 150 grn core-lokt out of my .270. I would have used 150 grn Nosler Partitions, but at the time I was shopping I couldn't find any in stock. How far did it run to find that open area to die in. About 6 steps. Just what i figured.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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You better get a bigger gun. What if it had been 5 steps from a thousand foot cliff. Btw, beautiful pic.
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At what distance was that shot taken? I bought a .270 WIN for an elk hunt and my buddy is telling me I'm an idiot for not buying a 7 mag. I may buy the exact same rifle in 7 mag later this year anyway, because why not? But I'd like to shut them up and knock one down with the 'ol 270.
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At what distance was that shot taken? I bought a .270 WIN for an elk hunt and my buddy is telling me I'm an idiot for not buying a 7 mag. I may buy the exact same rifle in 7 mag later this year anyway, because why not? But I'd like to shut them up and knock one down with the 'ol 270. 270 Wins will crush Elk. Good Bullets mean way more than the actual name on the case.
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Take good shot with 270 and Elk will drop. Shot placement is key with any caliber
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re: the .270 Winchester for elk:
The smallest rifle I've used for elk is a 280 Remington with 160 partitions....so far that combo has resulted in two dead elk with two shots.
I loaded some 160 partitions for a friend with a .270 Winchester....same thing....dead elk.
My personal preference is for a larger bullet but one can't argue with what works.....and there's a lot of testimony here for the old .270 Winchester
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At what distance was that shot taken? I bought a .270 WIN for an elk hunt and my buddy is telling me I'm an idiot for not buying a 7 mag. I may buy the exact same rifle in 7 mag later this year anyway, because why not? But I'd like to shut them up and knock one down with the 'ol 270. There isn't a lick of difference in the performance of these two on elk at all reasonable ranges, given good shot placement and proper bullet construction in both. If you want to eliminate the bullet construction variable, use Barnes TSX, TTSX or LRX in weights of 129-150 in the ..270 Win or 139-160 in the 7mm Rem Mag.
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You'll be fine with a 270 and good bullets - emphasis on good bullets. I shot 2 in 2016 with the ole 270 at a combined 60 yards maybe. 150 grain Partition worked fine. Unfortunately my 270 belongs to some disadvantaged yute in Kansas City....... I'll be toting a 280 AI next year using 160 Accubonds or Partitions. I'll bet it will work. BTW if you handload, buy some Re 26, load 60 - 61 grains under a 150 Partition then compare to your buddies 7 mag. Won't be a whole lot of difference.
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