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buy tc,cva,traditions latest models and you'll be good.
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The CVA's seem pretty simplistic for maintenance wondering about accuracy with the Optima??
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THAT WOULD BE CALLED A DINKA THERE 10,000YARDS PISRIFLES HARD TO FINSHOT
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If I was you I would look for a new old stock T/C Omega or a used one in like new condition. I have 14 different muzzleloaders and I would have to say that overall the T/C is the most accurate and simple design. I have come to appreciate the fact that it is NOT a break action design. I have several that are break actions and I feel and a NON break action design has more benefits, especially when cleaning or at the range.
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My break-action Knight Vision is much easier to tear-down clean than my fall-action Omega. The Vision can be quick-cleaned, not having the deeper nook & crannies the Omega has around the breech.
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GoexBlackhorn is your Knight set up for western I am in Washington
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Damn! I don't believe any good true muzzleloader should be compared to a Tikka!!
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If by Tikka... you mean simple, and easy to get to shoot well without a lot of fuss... I have played with 5 TC Impacts over the past few years and they have all been super simple and accurate. I believe they all shot 200gr and 250gr SST/Shockwaves over 100ish grains of BH209 VERY well.
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TDN That's exactly what I mean
Last edited by byd; 02/12/18.
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My Savage is very accurate, I like it!!
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For factory ML, Knight would be considered top of the line. They are very nice, super accurate, high quality, USA made ML's. The Ultra-Lite is money. If I was in the market, that would be my choice. You can certainly buy a lesser brand that will be effective. Or you can buy a like new/used rifle. I've picked up some very good top end ML's on the cheap over the years.
Another to consider if you can find one, a like new/used TC Omega. Simple and accurate. BH209 ready.
My suggestion on whatever you get, get a stainless gun. They are much more forgiving than blued.
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Damn! I don't believe any good true muzzleloader should be compared to a Tikka!! You might be right. Kinda like comparing an apple and an Edsel. Show me a 50 yard offhand group of 5 from a Tikka....
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The Tikka comment was to for out of box simplicity and accuracy.
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My CVA optima with the BH BP with Harvester Scorpion bullets prints pretty groups at 100 and it was dirt cheap. I would buy the same exact thing if I needed to do it again.
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The Tikka comment was to for out of box simplicity and accuracy. Oh. Well, this wasn't from a Tikka, but it was offhand at 50 yards. About as simple as it gets.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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I have owned dozens of muzzleloaders including models from Knight, CVA, Remington and a pile if TC models from over the last 35 years....The most consistantly accurate rifles I have had were either Remington's or the CVA's with the Bergara barrels, I also liked the feel of TC's Encore rifle ( I have owned a dozen of these) but I found them generally less accurate and more picky about the particular load I was shooting......For the money My vote goes to CVA for now.......Good luck.....Hb
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I would like to get into muzzleloading and I have had great success with my Tikka is there a manufacture of muzzleloaders that equals Tikka for accuracy and reliability. Sad that you had to explain yourself on the tikka comparison........lol. I thought your question was very self explanatory. The T/C's and CVA's I've had and been around have been straight forward...like a tikka.
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Tikka's are center fire rifles You still haven't mentioned the style that Tikka's are. Is it a semi-auto gas? Is it a bolt-action? etc......etc......etc.... Do you want a bolt-action ML?..... plunger-action?...... fall-action?........ break-action?.....etc. Lol
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I got the CVA Accura 2 nitride northwest edition
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