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Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Teacher likely committed battery. Unfortunate.

If a cop puts their hands on you do they commit battery? The thing that's unfortunate is how we all have allowed this country to go to the dogs.


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Originally Posted by BobMt
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Damn sorry situation when a kid won’t stand anyway. What color was the kid?



what the fawk does that have to do with anything........teachers need to keep their hands to themselves, unless they are defending themselves......bob



Because if it was a little monkey, you damn well it was being defiant for defiant's sake. And as far as keeping hands off the keeds....this one should have had a swift one right upside the ear. I see horrible behavior by children with "understanding" parents. Add the element of groid, and all bets are off, they're completely unpredictable...lucky the teacher wasn't raped then.

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The token few JW and maybe other (7th day Adventist?) kids in my classes when I grew up didn't stand for the pledge...instead they quietly went about their lives as good friends, decent folks and model pupils.

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Damn sorry situation when a kid won’t stand anyway. What color was the kid?



what the fawk does that have to do with anything........teachers need to keep their hands to themselves, unless they are defending themselves......bob



Because if it was a little monkey, you damn well it was being defiant for defiant's sake. And as far as keeping hands off the keeds....this one should have had a swift one right upside the ear. I see horrible behavior by children with "understanding" parents. Add the element of groid, and all bets are off, they're completely unpredictable...lucky the teacher wasn't raped then.



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Originally Posted by RickyD
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Teacher likely committed battery. Unfortunate.

If a cop puts their hands on you do they commit battery? The thing that's unfortunate is how we all have allowed this country to go to the dogs.
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Don’t know about a cop but if a citizen does it, it is called battery.


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Originally Posted by chris112
"Hands on" very bad idea in this day and age. When I was a kid though if it required "hands on" you got it and when you got home you would probably get it again.



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Originally Posted by Timbermaster
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Teacher likely committed battery. Unfortunate.

If a cop puts their hands on you do they commit battery? The thing that's unfortunate is how we all have allowed this country to go to the dogs.
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Don’t know about a cop but if a citizen does it, it is called battery.

It's not that simple. It has to be an unlawful application of force that results in injury or offensive touching as in the case of sexual contact. I doubt this did either, but lieberals don't care anymore.


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Teacher is screwed, and rightfully so.

1) School has no rule saying they have to stand, according to the article, so unless something is left out of the article, the kid was doing nothing wrong by school rules.
2) A teacher simply can't grab a kid, pull them out of the desk, that won't go "smooth" given the shape of the desks (assuming it was an attached chair),
3) Then forcing/physically taking the kid out of the room

All because he chose not to stand, which the school says is fine?

So unless the kid was being a pain in the butt, acting out etc. that teacher is screwed.

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Originally Posted by Pahntr760
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Once you introduce physical force into the equation, its a whole new ball game.

Teacher coulda/shoulda handled it differently.

I'm pretty sure there was more to it than that, pretty sure that teacher was provoked over a period of time.

Ultimately that kid outsmarted her, tho' he/she may not have been smart enough to plan it that way.



Very true. You simply can't get hands-on with the kids in almost any situation.

Additionally...as much as one may not agree with sitting out the pledge, that right is still 100% guaranteed by the Constitution.


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That kid has every right to not stand and to not be laid a hand on be it something I agree with or not.

Teacher is an [bleep] and the kid is too.


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Originally Posted by greydog
When I was a kid I got hit with rulers, belts, open hands, and boxing gloves (this was a special situation and I still think I could have taken the coach if given just a little more time). Mostly, I had it coming but not nearly to the extent that many have it coming today. Disrespect is the default attitude of a large percentage of the population. GD



Reading this made me laugh out loud.
I remember being in elementary school in Alberta, and getting smacked with a ruler by the teacher. Also remember being guided by the short hairs at the back of my head/neck, lifted up out of my seat and escorted out of the room. There was also the time I got "the strap" accross my hands by the principle for intentionally breaking a school window. I don't think anyone would want us to go back to those types of practices, but I also remember being a whole lot more cooperative and less lippy afterward. Oh and just to give you a time frame on this, I am 49 yrs old.

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I am open to a teacher forcing my child to move if they are doing something wrong. With most of our children it would never of got to this point, though,,,,,,they are raised respectful.

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One key word: BOULDER

I agree students ought to be able to kneel or not participate.

Still can’t be any coincidence that this gets ratcheted to this level in Boulder. Place is crazy Liberal.

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Originally Posted by Higbean
That kid has every right to not stand and to not be laid a hand on be it something I agree with or not.

Teacher is an [bleep] and the kid is too.

Agreed. If the whole class thought the kid was a f u c k u p and a loser for not standing, damn right he would have stood on his own. If people imagine that violence against peaceful acts is a solution, they don't deserve to pledge to the flag. As in all of you defending the teacher laying hands on a kid who is injuring no one and nothing. You are leftist Marxists in 9/10 ways, and don't comprehend it.


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Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Teacher likely committed battery. Unfortunate.

If a cop puts their hands on you do they commit battery? The thing that's unfortunate is how we all have allowed this country to go to the dogs.


If a cop puts their hands on a person because they're not standing for a voluntary Pledge of Allegiance, then, in fact, YES, that is indeed battery.

If a cop puts their hands on a person pursuant to enforcing laws or self-defense, then, in fact, they are not committing battery.

I don't see why that is hard to understand.

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I love the "when I was in school" stories, but when I was in school the teacher would not have ever had to lay a hand on the little puke, because we would have beat his hate filled azz the minute he stepped of the bus, of course that was a time when Russia was the enemy and we loved and God blessed America !


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Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
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Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Teacher likely committed battery. Unfortunate.

If a cop puts their hands on you do they commit battery? The thing that's unfortunate is how we all have allowed this country to go to the dogs.
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Don’t know about a cop but if a citizen does it, it is called battery.

It's not that simple. It has to be an unlawful application of force that results in injury or offensive touching as in the case of sexual contact. I doubt this did either, but lieberals don't care anymore.


Wrong.


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Maybe it goes like this - if I am not allowed to lay my hands on your kid while he is in my class, I cannot (and will not) accept responsibility for his care and well-being while he is there. No authority = no responsibility.


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The comments on this thread really demonstrate the cultural divide between the Baby Boomers and the younger whippersnappers.


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