The only reason there is an AR-15 type Rifles is due to the Democrats. Back in the late 50’s early 60’s the US Military held Test Trials to adopt a New Rifle for the Military.
The AR-15 Failed the Army Test Board three times due to Sand Test, Water Test & one other that I can’t think of at this moment. This was during the Lyndon Johnson administration who had appointed Robert S Macnamara as head of the War Dept.
Macnamara did away with the Army Test Board and had the AR-15 adopted as the new Military Rifle for all the services. At the time of adoption it was called Macnamara’s 22 & Mickey Mouse rifle due to the plastic stocks. Over the years it has been modified so many times to correct all the deficiencies in the original rifle. It was also the reason we lost thousands of GI’s in Vietnam due to jamming & defective ammunition.
Macnamara was formerly with Colt Industries who was awarded the first contract for production of the new Military Rifles.
All this info is available in many sources including the NRA Publication the American Rifleman.
Every time I hear the Democrats go on a rage about passing Gun Laws I think of this.
The only reason there is an AR-15 type Rifles is due to the Democrats. Back in the late 50’s early 60’s the US Military held Test Trials to adopt a New Rifle for the Military.
The AR-15 Failed the Army Test Board three times due to Sand Test, Water Test & one other that I can’t think of at this moment. This was during the Lyndon Johnson administration who had appointed Robert S Macnamara as head of the War Dept.
Macnamara did away with the Army Test Board and had the AR-15 adopted as the new Military Rifle for all the services. At the time of adoption it was called Macnamara’s 22 & Mickey Mouse rifle due to the plastic stocks. Over the years it has been modified so many times to correct all the deficiencies in the original rifle. It was also the reason we lost thousands of GI’s in Vietnam due to jamming & defective ammunition.
Macnamara was formerly with Colt Industries who was awarded the first contract for production of the new Military Rifles.
All this info is available in many sources including the NRA Publication the American Rifleman.
Every time I hear the Democrats go on a rage about passing Gun Laws I think of this.
"Macnamara was formerly with Colt Industries who was awarded the first contract for production of the new Military Rifles."
Robert McNamara (Secretary of Defense - 1961-1968) was NEVER employed by Colt; he was in the US Army during WW2 (Captain to Lt. Colonel) and then employed by Ford Motors (rising to President) until he became Secretary of Defense in 1961. Following his tenure as Secretary of Defense, he became President of the World Bank.
The M-16 was developed by Armalite, a subsidiary of Fairchild Engine and Airplane Corporation of Germantown, Maryland. The M-16 was adopted by the USAF to replace the US M-1 Carbine. The company was too small to produce the volumes of M-16 requited and licensed Colt to make the rifle. The AR-15 was sent to Vietnam for testing by the Special Forces who reported favorably on its performance. Unfortunately, when it was adopted by the military as a universal shoulder arm, the DOD (especially McNamara's statistical "Whizz Kids") refused to chrome line the barrels and they rusted in the humid SE Asia climate, causing jams. Also, the Army did not issue cleaning kits claiming that the rifle was self-cleaning, thus adding to the corrosion and other woes!
Oh, and by the way, Robert McNamara was a Republican appointed by Kennedy and he remained a staunch Republican until 1978 when he switched parties.
The only reason there is an AR-15 type Rifles is due to the Democrats. Back in the late 50’s early 60’s the US Military held Test Trials to adopt a New Rifle for the Military.
The AR-15 Failed the Army Test Board three times due to Sand Test, Water Test & one other that I can’t think of at this moment. This was during the Lyndon Johnson administration who had appointed Robert S Macnamara as head of the War Dept.
Macnamara did away with the Army Test Board and had the AR-15 adopted as the new Military Rifle for all the services. At the time of adoption it was called Macnamara’s 22 & Mickey Mouse rifle due to the plastic stocks. Over the years it has been modified so many times to correct all the deficiencies in the original rifle. It was also the reason we lost thousands of GI’s in Vietnam due to jamming & defective ammunition.
Macnamara was formerly with Colt Industries who was awarded the first contract for production of the new Military Rifles.
All this info is available in many sources including the NRA Publication the American Rifleman.
Every time I hear the Democrats go on a rage about passing Gun Laws I think of this.
The gun they should have adopted was something like a scaled down H&K G3 (91) chambered in something like the Russian 7.62X39.
Better than the 7.62X39mm was the British .280/30, a 7mm intermediate cartridge (7X43mm). It was offered as a NATO standard, but was rejected by the US Army (Col. Rene' Struder) which demanded a full power 30 caliber cartridge (7.62X51mm). The later proved uncontrollable in full-auto in the M-14, thus leading to the adoption of the 5.56X45mm in less than one decade.
in the meantime, all you'z guys that hate the AR platform, go stand in front of me with one, at... well lets say 500 yards for grins and let me fire a few from that underpowered jamming POS...
But why the hell would you worry about the gun, instead of the 2nd amendment.... Geez
AR is one of the most innovative platforms and versatile platforms I've ever seen... crossbow, 22 to who knows what semi, and even bolt top halves in 50 bmg.... anything else that versatile?
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
The inventor of the AR rifles had it designed for DuPont ? pellitized POWDER and the Army decided to increase velocity by using ball powder which gummed up the works iirc.
Better than the 7.62X39mm was the British .280/30, a 7mm intermediate cartridge (7X43mm). It was offered as a NATO standard, but was rejected by the US Army (Col. Rene' Struder) which demanded a full power 30 caliber cartridge (7.62X51mm). The later proved uncontrollable in full-auto in the M-14, thus leading to the adoption of the 5.56X45mm in less than one decade.
The M 14 was an excellent choice to replace the M 1 and I never had any trouble controlling it in full auto as long as three round bursts were fired. The BAR was more controllable only due to its weight.
When Mc Namamara was at Ford, he pushed the Edsel and fought the Mustang
boy o boy! i had to put on my muck boots, the bs in the op was so deep. remember
Originally Posted by X1Proto
The only reason there is an AR-15 type Rifles is due to the Democrats. Back in the late 50’s early 60’s the US Military held Test Trials to adopt a New Rifle for the Military.
The AR-15 Failed the Army Test Board three times due to Sand Test, Water Test & one other that I can’t think of at this moment. This was during the Lyndon Johnson administration who had appointed Robert S Macnamara as head of the War Dept.
Macnamara did away with the Army Test Board and had the AR-15 adopted as the new Military Rifle for all the services. At the time of adoption it was called Macnamara’s 22 & Mickey Mouse rifle due to the plastic stocks. Over the years it has been modified so many times to correct all the deficiencies in the original rifle. It was also the reason we lost thousands of GI’s in Vietnam due to jamming & defective ammunition.
Macnamara was formerly with Colt Industries who was awarded the first contract for production of the new Military Rifles.
All this info is available in many sources including the NRA Publication the American Rifleman.
Every time I hear the Democrats go on a rage about passing Gun Laws I think of this.
boy o boy! i had to put on my muck boots, the bs in the op was so deep. remember some of us were around then .
the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
I'm having trouble connecting the point of the OPs post with the title of thread. Maybe it's just me... The AR is just a semi auto rifle. Just like the ones that don't look so scary to the left. ANYONE that thinks that the anti 2nd amendment crowd will try to cut this AR calf from the herd without killing every cow in the corral is sadly mistaken.
Don't fall for it,... putting fish net stockings on a Nun don't make her a whore.... Regardless of what the antis are trying to sell the masses.
i do believe johnson's dirty little southeast asian war did introduce a whole generation of young men to the benefits of the m-16 and it's civilian brother version. and that's fine.
but, here we are now. and the ar-15 and kalishnikov types are being billed as the archetype of evil weaponry by the anti-gunners.
i always preferred a bar. but that's personal preference.
what we're seeing on all the media channels now is a demonization of the rifles. one dude on fox said they weren't for hunting they were for killing. i guess he forgot about target practice? anyways we gun owners are under assault again by the msm. no one can breathe a complete sentence without mentioning gun control.
Well color me fooled. I click on a "fake" thread title to find an original post filled with bogus information. At least others straightened out the erroneous information. Just wow.
The M-16 was developed by Armalite, a subsidiary of Fairchild Engine and Airplane Corporation of Germantown, Maryland.
djs, that's very interesting. I grew up in Germantown, MD. They recently tore down the old Fairchild building. Thanks for posting that.
Do you remember the very short (300') runway between the Fairchild headquarters and I-70S (now I-270) which was used by Ed Uhl (Fairchild President) for his daily commute between Hagerstown (MD) and Germantown? I remember seeing Uhl's Turbo-Porter taking-off or landing several times. The runway was only about 100 feet from the Interstate! I "Google-maped" it and the runway is still in the aerial photo.
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