Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire let's educate the rank & file on ar-15 rifles.

All of this won’t matter in 20 years when these 15-18 year olds are the ones in state houses and Washington DC. They are fed up with their classmates and their schools getting shot up, and will be the generation that bans the AR-15.

I agree. That's what mine did......but he did it at 15.

Appeasement or the passage of feel good laws which remove freedoms with a false promise of security are the same sham.

I had a liberal anti gunner tell me no one used AR's for hunting-the only purpose they served was killing people. I asked him if that was the case, why aren't these "events" being conducted with nukes? He stammered for a while and couldn't come up with the answer. Really threw him for a loop when I sent him 100 different random pictures of guys with critters they'd shot and AR's in the pictures. He doubled up on his Xanax and he's much better now..........

You need to re-read your directive. You were supposed to say 18 year old instead of a 19 year old.





I have seen this same type of post, point for point, popping up on the net lately.

I would make it very difficult for any kid that drops, quits or gets expelled out of High school to own, buy or possess any firearm. Not just AR's. If a person cannot finish High school for what ever reason, they don't need a firearm. It seems too many of them go back and try to get even. Thankfully, most of them try to do it without a firearm.

It would not be that hard for the State (whichever one you live in) to inform the FBI either through the local Police or Sheriff's department or have a process for directly informing the Feds directly from the school principals office. Typically, for those kids motivated enough to finish High School, they are motivated enough to move on and be successful as adults. We go out of our way to restrict misdemeanor domestic assaults, why not this ??

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The critical issue is whether or not the 19 year old is crazy. I was no more likely to murder school children when I was 19 than I am now at 52 because I was not and am not crazy.

All of these mass shootings have two things in common. Semi auto rifles and crazy people who passed background checks. The left can only talk about the rifle side of the equation because their ultimate goal is the total disarmament of the population to facilitate the revolution that they have planned for us. There are only a relatively few crazy enough people to commit a mass shooting out there but a million AR-15s which prove that AR's in the hands of sane people are not a problem.

Crazy is mighty hard to stop, but the debate we should be having is how we attempt to do it. Most of these shooters threw up "red flags" before they killed. Maybe these red flags should wind up on an NICS background check and preclude a person from being able to buy an AR-15 or any other firearm? As I understand it now, only previously committed felonies show up on background checks.

This opens up a whole other can of worms about the rights of the mentally ill, but I think this is the direction we should be headed. I don't have the answers to what it should look like because I am not a mental health professional.

Apparently, this guy inherited a bunch of guns. Do we want to go there?

Do you a problem with a 19 year old walking out with a Mini14 or a Ruger 10/22?

I know one thing. Trying to convince an uneducated public that an AR 15 shooting a .223 or .556 with a 30 round magazine is not killing machine but a half azzed varmit rifle at best when you got 17 kids laying in a bloody hallway dead isnt gonna be a good arguement. All firearms are lethal. Not to mention the string of other mass murders where they were used. Whatever you do dont post a pic of at .223 vs 308 or 30-06 deer round to demonstrate how small it is compared to a deer hunting round or you will blow their mind. Just so I'm clear Im not for banning I'm just not using the aurguement its a varmit rifle not a powerfull killing machine.

This, exactly.

If centerfire rifles were outlawed, some jackass would take a 10/22 with .22 Shorts, and go make carnage. If all rifles were outlawed, a different jackass would go steal a gym bag's worth of revolvers, and use a New York Reload to go make carnage.

I was in London in the summer of 2008, and there were a rash of stabbings around the time of my visit. High-ranking officials actually said, "We've got to do something about knives."

Gun control aint a slippery slope: it's an elevator shaft.

FC

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THIS PRECISELY.

When I was a 19 year old kid, I was serving in the United States Navy. Jerry

Mr. Biden....er, bugs, if you choose to protect yourself & your family with a Trap gun or a 12 pound long range rifle, have at it.

I choose to protect me & mine with the proper tool. And... as a law abiding American citizen, I have that right.

I hate to even think about it, but what if no guns are available, when, not if, when, some psychopath decides today is the day, & uses a few gallons of readily available gasoline instead.

Which cartridge WOULD you want to be shot with?

I like to remind people the AR-15 came about in 1963 and now suddenly, 50+ years later, the 15 is the problem.

All you hear out of the media is that an AR15 is a military weapon, and only has one purpose... "To kill people".

That's funny, as none of mine have killed anyone. But, I have hunted nearly exclusively with an AR of some sort with everything game animal wise that I hunt for decades now. I have also won open shooting matches where all types of rifles were used, and none beat my AR overall.

The AR is just the FIRST gun they want banned.

The 2A has nothing to do with benchrest, or hunting pheasants, or busting clay birds. Zero. It exists to ensure that "We the People" have the ability with withstand any overreaching advances of a tyrannical government. That being said, you are certainly entitled to your opinion about what you are opposed to versus what you endorse.

If an evil-doer goes in a walmart and buys two cheap turkey-hunting shotguns, stuffs each full of buckshot, puts one on a sling and one in his hands, and then attacks a building full of people, the carnage is likely to be about the same as with an AR rifle. It's the evil heart that murders, not the tool at hand.

I'd feel much safer without liberals than without AR15s.

Oh HELL yes!

They are the real threat to our country.