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6.5x55 is a lot more classier than the gay creed!

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
I'd avoid the Creedmoor unless you want to be like every other skinny jean wearing, Bin Laden bearded millennial.

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Just a matter of time Jer.....you'll get the fever.

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I really doubt it.

**** > > .. As you see them the 7 weighs >> 3 oz more than the 270 **
The 7s recoil pad is thicker and the bll. is @ 2" longer.

I have changed my attitude about the Creed but I still am NOT interested. I have a Win 70 6.5X55 so I don't see anything to gain.
S A don't appeal to me, so....

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just picked up a Winchester model 70 classic in 6.5x55 swede, don't need creed of any kind, a classic always a classic, the creed will go just like the wsm and saum

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Originally Posted by southtexas
“There is NOTHING a 25/06 will do that a 6.5/06 won’t do better“

When I read statements like this, i wonder what “better” means.


All other things equal, for any given bullet weight, the 6.5/06 will shoot it faster. It ain’t much more but it’s there. Additionally, if you want to do the long range thing, high BC bullets are abundant in 6.5mm. Not so much in .257. It ain’t the case, it’s the available bullets that make the 6.5/06 better.

The 25/06 does have the factory ammo advantage.

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The way I see it with the 6.5CM is that off the rack, it accomplishes a lot of schit I tried to do handloading for a 260 and 7-08.

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so does the 270 win, plus you can get ammo for the 270 at wallmart

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The way I see it with the 6.5CM is that off the rack, it accomplishes a lot of schit I tried to do handloading for a 260 and 7-08.

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so does the 270 win, plus you can get ammo for the 270 at wallmart

^^^^^ This. ^^^^^

And you can get 6.5 Creedmoor ammo at WalMart and just about anywhere else, just like the .270 Win. You're not going to do that with the .260 Rem, 6.5x55, 7-08 or, sadly, the .25-06.

As far as the Creedmoor going the way of the SAUM or WSM, the WSM is doing OK, actually. The .300 and .270 WSM versions do quite well and are offered in a ton of factory rifles with good component and factory ammo supply. The SAUM is basically dead in the water with no current factory rifles offered in the only two commercial versions, the 7mm SAUM or 300 SAUM. But the Creedmoor isn't going anywhere. In North America, it currently outsells all the WSMs and SAUMs and 6.5x55s combined. In fact, some custom rifle makers are building more 6.5 Creedmoor rifles than all other cartridges (that includes the Big Five) combined. Ammo companies have gotten on board, as well.

It's here to stay, and has probably already taken its place alongside the Big Five, meaning we now have a Big Six: .243 Win, .270 Win, 7mm Rem Mag, .308 Win, .30-06 and .... 6.5 Creedmoor.


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“There is NOTHING a 25/06 will do that a 6.5/06 won’t do better“

When I read statements like this, i wonder what “better” means.


All other things equal, for any given bullet weight, the 6.5/06 will shoot it faster. It ain’t much more but it’s there. Additionally, if you want to do the long range thing, high BC bullets are abundant in 6.5mm. Not so much in .257. It ain’t the case, it’s the available bullets that make the 6.5/06 better.

The 25/06 does have the factory ammo advantage.

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Yes, I'm aware of the fabulous BCs available in 6.5. And the marginal difference in MV is not significant in the field. For the way I (and most others) hunt, one could use either cartridge for the rest of their lives and never be able to detect a difference.


But more to the point, if the statement was " the 6.5/06 has some capabilities that the 25/06 lacks, I would concur. But to say there is NOTHING the 25 can do that the 6.5 won't do "Better"...BS, No hog or deer within 400 yards would know the diff.

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Originally Posted by mooshoo
6.5x55 is a lot more classier than the gay creed!


I thought the Creed was metrosexual.... but what do I know. I am a huge 270 fan, so it must be natural to be a creed fan also? confused


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25-06 had one for years. I have a lot of the other calibers. Current carry gun well for the last 15 years is the 25-06 it shots well and is lite on recoil and shoot MOA out of the box. I would go with the 25-06 and never look back but that's me. I have to agree with others there are small trade offs among in the end it is what satisfies you and will work for the type of hunting that you do.


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Hard to beat a good Swede. That’s the way I would go.

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Originally Posted by CRS
Originally Posted by mooshoo
6.5x55 is a lot more classier than the gay creed!


I thought the Creed was metrosexual.... but what do I know. I am a huge 270 fan, so it must be natural to be a creed fan also? confused


That is way cool of explaining this, creed metrosexual!

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Originally Posted by mooshoo
. ...the creed will go just like the wsm and saum


I doubt that.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the creed has already outsold all the saums.

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Tough call as I like all of the above choices. If you average .308 and .224 you get .266 so the swede it is unless you just had to have a Creedmoor. With 75 to 160 grain bullets the 6.5s are squarely in the middle but with out a redundant level of overlap of your other rifles. This season deer hunted with the Swede and next year it will be the 25-06 and a 6AI. Usually with a .243 along for the ride.


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I think that if some one would neck down the 308 case to 270 and ask for some 1in8 barrels, the bullet maker's would start building some 160gr to 180gr bullet that would be the new cats meow, or is that a 270 titus?

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Originally Posted by mooshoo
I think that if some one would neck down the 308 case to 270 and ask for some 1in8 barrels, the bullet maker's would start building some 160gr to 180gr bullet that would be the new cats meow, or is that a 270 titus?

I’d think the neck might be a bit short (like the .260 and 7-08) to seat such long bullets in standard magazines without compressing a whole bunch of powder.

In all honesty, you’d be better off starting with a Creedmoor or PRC or SAUM case. A sleek 165 or 170 in a properly twisted .277 barrel with enough juice behind it to get it to 2900 fps, or so would be the cat’s azz.

Hey Hornady! How about a 27 PRC specd at 8” twist along with a factory loaded 169 grain ELD-X? Maybe you could get Barnes on board to make a 145 grain LRX? And Nosler a 162 grain ABLR?

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