Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Why We Need a Constitutional Convention

With a CC you can kiss the Bill of Rights goodbye.

As I recall, from back in the 80s, I think, the main reason that we would need one would be so that people can knowingly throw around the term "ConCon", like it was some sort of burlesque dance or something, to show that they are really up on it.

Absolutely.

The original Constitution was written by men who had just gone through a revolution and had literally put their own lives on the line to choose liberty over security.

A constitutional convention today would be made up of politicians representing people who would sell every pound of liberty they have in the vain hope of receiving a few ounces of security.

The Bill of Rights has already been mitigated. It is under constant attack by the federal judicial that does not agree with the constitution as it was penned. It is under constant attack by the various federal agencies that have no oversight and are therefore able to circumvent the constitution and the Bill of Rights at will. It is under attack by people of both parties that are drunk with power and truly believe that an overreaching government akin to socialism is the only path forward. Those that do not believe in the constitution as it was written and daily work to get around it and disregard the things they do not like and insert the things they do like. Article five justly states that we the people are able through our various states to put things right again and reinforce the constitution as it was intended by the founders.

Yep, when you start that convention, you open it for changes.
And not just the ones you may like.

So, you guys think the Rs in congress would bow to dimocraps without fear of being voted out? No way. They will do anything possible to stay in office.

Glad our founders werent such chicken littles. They risked their lives, not a nation in its death throws.

How long do you guys think we have with millions of brainwashed, socialist kids entering voting age every year. The soon to be brown shirts will be marching this weekend with the demise of your lifestyle in mind.

The original Constitution was written with the underlying principle that power corrupts and absolutely power corrupts absolutely and that no human can be trusted with too much power, so it does everything possible to mitigate that power and keep it from being concentrated in the hands of too few.

The Founding Fathers foresight was 20/20 since everyone in power since then has tried to garner more power into their own hands.

The lying, self serving, greedy, scum sucking, perverse pieces of shi*t that occupy Washington (and have for a lot longer than any of us or our great great grandparents have been alive) would rewrite the constitution to inscribe their life long absolute power over their subjects in stone.

a constitutional convention would NOT be letting the fox into the hen house, it WOULD BE LETTING IN A PACK OF WOLVES!

the constitution is not in need of revision, it just needs to be followed. kinda like the 10 commandments .

"You say you'll change the Constitution
Well you know
We all want to change your head.
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You'd better free your mind instead."

If we dont change it, we are toast. We could probably get legislators to agree to term limits in each position with the stipulation it would only apply to those who follow them in office.

Gimme a break. That doesn't require a CC, not even an amendment.

Newt Gingrich tried to get that passed when he was speaker. No way would the Congress go along.

Would still have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states. Also all states would only get one vote each in the convention. Unless the convention tried to change the rules.

Be interesting what powers the three branches would try to give themselves to control oversee any such convention. Especially the courts.

Interesting article on the risks of a CC..

https://www.cbpp.org/research/state...nvention-on-balanced-budget-amendment-or

No way do I want a new Constitutional Convention. Every read about that first one? A long, hot summer in Philly, and a difficult job getting something that you could get by 13 states, much less 50.

No, I don't want the Hispanics demanding an amendment for open borders, nor do I want them striking the 2nd Amend. I don't want an Equal Rights Amendment for the Feminazis and LGBT crowd to shoe horn in their injustices and retributional payback. I don't want to fight the abortion battle and animal rights.

Anyone who wants a new CC is thinking that ONLY those with conservative values in line with the original constitution would be heard and get the job done. More than likely, the opposite would occur.

Not necessarily. Every proposed amendment that comes out of it must be ratified by 34 states. This is by states, not by population. Say there's one to abolish the 2d Amendment. It needs to be ratified by 34 states and it's highly unlikely that you could get anywhere near that many. Idaho's pure red vote carries the same weight as Calif's pure blue vote and there are a lot of small red states.

It is my understanding that once a constitutional convention is convened anything and everything is fair game. The constitution and all our freedoms are at the mercy of those in power at the convention. I for one do not trust anyone with my constitutional rights. A constitutional convention isa very bad idea.

You need to read up on it some more.

1. If you have an article 5 convention of the states, you would need a super majority of state legislatures to lose any constitutional rights you have now.

2. The ONLY way you will EVER get term limits is for the states to impose it in such a convention. You will NEVER EVER get term limits if you let DC decide that.

3. Calling a convention of the states sets a precedence that the people are taking back some of the power from DC whether they like it or not.

The bottom line is that the framers of the Constitution created the avenue of an article 5 convention of the states for this very situation we have found ourselves in today. They hoped we would never need to use it but it is in there as a measure of last resort over an over powerful, centralized federal government that has lost it's way. and has usurped far too much power from the states.

Upon further research it appears Congress must convene a convention of states if a supermajority of states request it and it must be requested for specific reason or reasons. Constitutional scholars disagree on whether or not the stated reasons are the only subjects that can be addressed. If I had the authority to decide the subject matter, I would be all for it. If you have the authority to decide the subject matter, I would not be in favor. I use the word you as all inclusive meaning anyone other than me. Not singling out any one person.