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Mexico has stated they will stop all "co-operation" with the US against their drug cartels if our military is used to secure the border.

Can Trump issue "Letters of Marque" against cartel operations? Some SOF guys could get rich quick intercepting cartel cash flowing back to Old Mexico.

Interesting idea.

That’d be terrible considering what an amazing job Mexico has been doing reigning in the cartels. Whatever would we do without their help?

Invading and annexing Mexico sounds better and better. We’d have to buy miles of rope just to hang the corrupt politicians and police in Mexico.

Only if they are annexed as a territory, and never become a state.

Smoke pot, the drug war is lost.

Absolutely. We already have a third world Mexican state, it’s called Texas. 😉

Mexican govt with its lack of helping to secure the border and failure to control the drug cartels represent a "clear and present danger" to the U.S.
A wall and secure border should have been done decades ago. IMO the lack of both has contributed to the failure of the drug war. Illegals pouring across is a drain on resources that could be used to help Americans that need help. If we had politicians with some will and resolve these problems could be resolved.

Mexico has been 'cooperating' against their drug cartels? Boy you sure can't tell it. I thought the Mexican government WAS the drug cartels.

We have way more leverage on them than the other way around.

There it is.

Mexico has military all over the border. Even caught aiding the cartels with crossing drugs.

WTF are they to tell us what we can or can't do with our military?

If our military could dry up the drug money flowing south, their military and politicians would lose big.

The only way to stop drugs is to make selling them too dangerous or too unprofitable for them to do it. Neither will ever happen.

Heard Jonah Goldberg, on his podcast yesterday, semi-seriously suggest Letters of Marque against state sourced cyber threats. Get someone to empty out Putin's crony's bank accounts for a share of it and immunity.

Drug dealers helped by Meskin military.

The military held deputies at gunpoint until they got the vehicle and whatever it was carrying into Mexico.



One of the deputies I know filmed alla this. It happened not far from our Texas ranch. But I'm sure someone from the NW, 1500 miles from where this occurred, knows more. Far more...

That vid didn't cooperate. Replaced it with another..

You spelled California wrong,

Get back to me when your state turns red again.

Seems like the cartels are just a branch of the Mexican government.

So from reading you are a rancher down in Texas? From what I gather you are not to far from the border if not right on the border. What do you and your fellow ranchers do to help the BP? Do you guys give them access to your land ie give them keys to the gates etc? If not what is the work around for them to get on your land to arrest illegals or at a minimum to patrol it?

I can't speak for Barry, but I don't know of any ranchers on the Border who let BP have free run of their place. Too many of BP guys don't GAF about gates, loose livestock, or are even in on the smuggling.

Ed

Within a certain distance from the border, you are mandated to give BP access to your land. Yes, the west Texas ranch had locks that the BP had keys to.

I don't really lock my ranch gate here in S. Texas, so it's mute point.

They can not only search for wetbacks on your land, but they can enter and search for wetbacks in your buildings or vehicles.


Border search exception

In United States criminal law, the border search exception or doctrine is a doctrine that allows searches and seizures at international borders and their functional equivalent without a warrant or probable cause.[1] The doctrine is not regarded as an exception to the Fourth Amendment, but rather to its requirement for a warrant or probable cause.[1][2] Balanced against the sovereign's interests at the border are the Fourth Amendment rights of entrants. Not only is the expectation of privacy less at the border than in the interior,[2][3] the Fourth Amendment balance between the interests of the Government and the privacy right of the individual is also struck much more favorably to the Government at the border.[4] This balance at international borders means that routine searches are "reasonable" there, and therefore do not violate the Fourth Amendment's proscription against "unreasonable searches and seizures".

Federal law allows certain federal agents to conduct search and seizures within 100 miles of the border into the interior of the United States.[5] The Supreme Court has clearly and repeatedly confirmed that the border search exception applies within 100 miles of the border of the United States as seen in cases such as United States v. Martinez-Fuerte where it was held that the Border Patrol's routine stopping of a vehicle at a permanent checkpoint located on a major highway away from the Mexican border for brief questioning of the vehicle's occupants is consistent with the Fourth Amendment.[6] However, searches of automobiles without a warrant by roving patrols have been deemed unconstitutional.[4]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception

Which does NOT mean that you have to give them keys to come and go anytime. They can be escorted onto the property and escorted around the property. They just call the person whose number is posted at the gate, or whose number they already have, and gain access.

Ed