Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire WHY do school shootings happen?

100% for it.

Have there been any shootings like this in private schools? If I were a sociologist - thank God I'm not - studying the cultural differences between the students would be an interesting place to start.

You can't stop evil, at best slow it up a bit. All the "We have to do something" proposals may treat the symptoms, which is important, but don't address the cause. My instincts tell me this crap involves poor parenting going back several generations and that's a personal responsibility that laws can't fix. Seems to me it started with the "free love", "if it feels good do it" '60s generation when contraceptives and abortion became freely available. People became selfish. But that's too trite to propound seriously. I wouldn't even play a sociologist on TV if you paid me.

"Alexa, end school shootings"

Isn't going to happen. Guns are the easiest thing to blame, therefore the Cliffs notes solution that someone else can "fix". Then Mom can go back to posting pictures of her apple pie on Facebook while Dad's in the basement rubbing one out to some porn site or wearing a headset and playing video games.

Me too.

Nailed it...

Too many drugs and alcoholics is one reason.

Another is too much violence shown on TV and movies,

Another thing is that punishments offer no deterrent effect.

Some crimes deserve a cruel punishment, in my opinion.

No, it wasn't like the large shootings that occur today (a little hard to rapid fire a flintlock), but the date shows that shootings are not a recent phenomena. If we consider double-digit deaths (10 or more) to be a significant number, then the first mass shooting occurred in 2005 (13 years ago) in Red Lake Minnesota. However, in 1986 (32 years ago in Cokeville, WY), 2 were killed and 74 wounded in another shooting.

Your math is pretty close to what might have an effect (a VERY expensive solution, but it could be effective ONLY IF the 3 cops-per-school just happened to be where any shooting broke out). But then the Santa Fe (TX) high school had 2 armed officers in it when the shooting broke out, according to Gov. Abbott. Apparently, they just weren't where the shooting was.

The school district had a plan, but it takes time to implement any plan, time which the shooter just keeps shooting.

see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...aaef3c_story.html?utm_term=.74a0a67f320e

Social media..

social media does not help. Neither does media coverage.

But I agree with 458, the fail of the family unit is where it all originates but thats now what the media wants to show, they want family units to fail so that ALL rely on huge .gov....

When I was a kid 50s and 60s I believe alcohol abuse and domestic violence was more common, and there was a lot violence, killing, and firearms depicted on TV. I believe the social disconnection of modern life and idle minds (and hands) is a huge cause. Life is physically too easy and many kids feel useless weird and isolated. I believe people are hard wired to be social and busily occupied. It may be hard to believe that people could feel isolated with our huge population and our huge schools but they feel just that.

This also. People don't have to rely on the local community and get along with the neighbors and church for assistance. The government check will come regardless of how shi--y and irresponsible you act.

Our country was founded as a Christian nation. That eroded over time and in 1963 Madalyn Murray O'Hair with the help from the ACLU and a leftist judicial managed to banish Christianity from our culture. John Jay wrote about what would happen should we loose our Christian heritage and it is coming to pass. Without Christianity there is no moral compass for our society.

Government subsidizes our income and controls more and more of our existence. Leisure activities and pursuits of all kinds command our time and efforts. Television has become our pied piper leading us further toward Marxism. Sex and graphic violence is a normal activity for entertainment along with mind control reality TV programs replete with scantly clad heathens practicing group think. One by one Carl Marx's theory is being implemented in a concerted effort by the democrat party and their press codified by the judicial they put in place over time.

As far as I can see none of the mass murderers have been popular citizens. They have all had some grudge against perceived threats by society whether real or not. Coaches have been picking on kids since I was in school many years ago. None of us felt compelled to murder anyone for it nor for being turned down for a date. As a culture we are being torn apart with prejudice. Race against race, color against color. Who stands to gain?

Our societal ills cannot get better until we collectively shun the very things that drive us apart and embrace the Christian Founding Principals that brought us together as a nation.

Morality and Christian beliefs need to come from the home, not the government.

was listening to Bill Cunningham last night for a while on the radio
discussing this...

he blamed it on social media and the lame street media..

indicating that over the last 30 years, there has actually been less school violence
than before that time...

its now that media has to blair it all over the airwaves over and over..
last claiming the last 'school shooting' in Georgia was actually a shooting
over a disagreement in a school parking lot that was being used after
school time... not during school time..

its magnified, due to the anti gun bias that is never ending by the liberal left.

as Saul Alinsky states, about never letting a tragedy go to waste...

Media doesn't want to end it... they want the turmoil, and society's angst
to disarm the public... and then they can get on with their real agenda
when the public can no longer stand up and resist them...

all they have to do, is put the will to do a school shooting in the head of some
loser type idiot and then look at the mileage they get out of it...

its always some looney toon lefty who does the shooting and goes off the deep end..

Oregon's Kip Kinkle, who shot up and killed a batch of kids in Eugene OR 20 years
ago at age 15, is now 35... he is having attempts made, to 'forgive him" and release him
from prison now.. as he has rehab'ed himself, and it was youthful anger that caused him
to kill his parents and them take a 10/22 to school to kill others...

keeping him alive all these years is cruel punishment in my book...cagged like an animal..
they should have put him out of his misery 19 to 20 years ago....

same as they should do with this idiot who killed fellow students in Santa Fe Texas this past week.

We have a deterioration of Christianity in this country. Regardless wither you’re a Christian or not, the lack of a belief in a higher authority is a problem in society.

No God means that there is no wright or wrong.

No God means that there is no accountability or consequences for your actions.

So, if you’re a kid that can’t fit into society, (for whatever the reason) and you do not care to continue with your life, why not shoot a bunch of people before you kill yourself? Or in some cases live, and get the notoriety that you never had.

I have wanted to do a bunch of bad things in my life time, but my belief in a higher power, and the belief that I will be held to account in the afterlife keeps me from doing these things.

The problem is with the teens themselves. They aren't grabbing a gun from home and running out and shooting random people. They're going back to school to get revenge for whatever they feel has wronged them. Bullying? Social media? They are shooting their own. Feel insecure, bullied, alone? Get a gun and show everyone at school. This is a problem parents, counselors and school cops should be looking for. One secure entrance at school with a cop and a metal detector and it would seem to me our kids would be much safer. As far as the actual cause or reason? I'm not sure. But make the parents responsible. If a parent leaves an unsecured firearm at home and a teen or any child uses it for any illegal activity the parent IS responsible and as such should be prosecuted. I know most will have a fit over this, but I don't think people under 21 should be allowed to own a firearm. This goes back to when we had a military draft, "If I'm old enough to die for my country then I'm old enough to.....(insert drink, smoke, buy a gun, whatever.) Well the draft is long over, 1973 and most of todays kids don't have the common sense to be allowed to legally do any of those things. Todays kids weren't raised by two parents, one staying at home, they were raised by social media and it has no direction or morals. It certainly has no conscience.

So why should you have more right to defend yourself than my 16 year old daughter that has to stay at home alone after school until we get home from work. I have all of my guns in safe places, but as my children got to the point that I felt that they could be responsible I gave them access to guns for protection.