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Slight forward balance.
M7 with a 22" Douglas #2 (.308), edge stock M7 with 21" Douglas #3 (.358), edge stock MRC with #3 Shilen at 22" (35 Whelen), edge stock Fieldcraft 30-06 ~#2 at 24" Previously owned NULA with same specs as above Fieldcraft NULA .50 ML
None of the above are over 7.5 lbs scoped. With the light stock and sporter'ish barrel they all balance slightly forward which helps steady/slow my sway while standing and shooting with no sling or rest.
When shooting prone or with a rest, even a tree, I can't tell that much difference in accuracy or time to settle on target between one of the above and a light barrel like the short action Fieldcraft. Pure off-hand I'm much slower with a light weight barrel.
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I have a 99 in 308. I’m eager to hunt with it this fall. It shoots amazingly well!
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Ruger M77 RSI 308 out of a tree climber, tripod, or ladder. It’s great out of my tree facing climber.
I’ll have to say my match built AR Service rifle at 17 pounds for HP matches. It’s nice for offhand at 200 yards. Got a bunch of lead wheel weights stuck to the float tube and butt stock full of bird shot. It hunts well too. Now that I’m out of the game, going to flattop it and pull the weights off and it’s a pig rifle...
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It is curious that the 760 and 7600 you shoot best off hand. That is why I got rid of my 760 in .35 Remington is because I found it too difficult to shoot well off hand, The metallic sight rifle I shoot best off hand is a Turkish 98 Mauser with a Williams receiver sight and a Williams 1/16" brass bead. The only other modification I had done was to recrown it with a spotfaced crown. The scoped rifle I shoot best with is probably my Winchester push feed model 70 in .30'06. It is a Walmart synthetic stock special. The stock fits me well, and the full contact with the barrel doesn't seem to matter.
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I shoot all of my rifles well, but I've taken the time to custom fit each one of them to me.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Accurate ones. Perfect fit is not critical- I'm adjustable, the rifles ain't.... well they could be if I bothered... I can tell you tho, that one does not want to stick his feet in the mud, fall over backwards, and then try with a 12 guage to take down a goose passing overhead. That Fox/Savage SS fits me to a tee, also.... I missed, but it was memorable.
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M70 Fwt in 7-08. It's actually a joy to carry and shoot.
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Ruger M77 RSI 308 out of a tree climber, tripod, or ladder. It’s great out of my tree facing climber. I'll second the RSI, especially when using iron sights at woods ranges.
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Remington Model 7 Predator in 223. For some reason, I tend to shoot this rifle better than I do anything else.
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Kimbers, Model 70's, Nula, all the same in the field when the adrenaline is pumping. The sights are either on the spot or you don't hit the trigger. You are running on a subconscious act you have repeated thousands of times. There is no awareness of hitting the trigger, it just happens. In my case the brain more or less screams "now!!!!".
At the range were the conscious mind is in control, the heavier the better
In the field, I've probably shot more game on one knee than any other position. Shooting a lot of Game Birds most definitely has a correlation to field off hand rifle shooting
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My best OH rifle is my Rem. 40X .22 LR with it's thumbhole stock. The scope is a Unertl 15X Ultra Varmint.
It weighs 16.5 lbs. with it's prone butt plate
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Kimbers, Model 70's, Nula, all the same in the field when the adrenaline is pumping. The sights are either on the spot or you don't hit the trigger. You are running on a subconscious act you have repeated thousands of times. There is no awareness of hitting the trigger, it just happens. In my case the brain more or less screams "now!!!!".
At the range were the conscious mind is in control, the heavier the better
In the field, I've probably shot more game on one knee than any other position. Shooting a lot of Game Birds most definitely has a correlation to field off hand rifle shooting In my case, shooting Jack rabbits on the run is what got my offhand shooting dialed in. A lot of times, you neither had the time nor the view of such game on the run, if kneeling.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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L61R Sako in 30-06... It's a pawn shop beater but I put on a thick recoil pad as I had it on hand...the extra length made it fit so well...I'm much better with it than all my other rifles...only shot one deer of hand with it but most were shot from sticks..
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Standing at a firing line, shooting paper or steel, my Shiloh #1 Sporter in 40-2.5 with MVA front and tang sights. Hunting...wow, hard to say, one of 3 or 4; 1908 Mannlicher/Schoenauer in 8 X 56, '98 Mauser by A. Strover in 8 X 57, Johann Peterlongo, '98 Mauser in 9 X 71 Peterlongo or lastly, a Mod. 46 Husky in 9.3 X 57. For smaller game it would be a toss up between a Jeffery Rook rifle in 25-20 or a Bartles stalking rifle in 8.15 X 46R.
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This one shoots very well.
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My standard is that if I can keep every hit on a paper plate at 200 yards (assuming I don't call a bad squeeze) , standing, off-hand, sling wrap, the rifle is good to go. In field on animals? I don't shoot offhand past 150 yards or so. Even on moose, which are BIG! Can't get a fairly steady rest beyond that? Pass. The biggest caribou I never shot was at 162, ranged, no good rest. The cross-hairs were a-wandering all over the place, the trigger never tweaked. I'm rather proud of that not-shot..... with a RU 77 .30-06 1.25 MOA rifle. I shoot that rifle well- having killed to almost 400 yards with it with a rest, despite it's 17 inch barrel. The stars did not align that evening....
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Just saying...if the rifles you have are tested and capable of hitting a paper plate at 200 yards offhand....then it sure ain't the rifle...:)
But thinking maybe if it was a Creed, it could be the cartridge...:)
Still-hunting in the homeland here, where a guy would mostly shoot off-hand out of necessity, we may be able to see 100-200 yards at some point in the exercise, but the bullet would have to go around trees or you would have to hunker down and find a path to thread the needle. For me, the solution is more akin to the handling of a double-barrel shotgun, than a piece for accuracy. Been thru WV and it looked pretty dang thick too, so am talking off that assumption.
Not to say accuracy isn't interesting...
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What rifle or rifles do you shoot better than others offhand? For me my Remington pumps, 760 & 7600, are my best to shoot offhand better than any other type. Although they are much maligned and certainly have their share of faults, I probably shoot the Winchester Model 100 as well as or better than any others, particularly the 308 rifle that had had the barrel cut back and recrowned by someone before I bought it at KTP on 11/20/99. I also shoot a Model 100 in 243 on some called coyote hunts and despite the crappy trigger, am often able to get doubles and the occasional triple because the action cycles itself faster than I could ever do manually.
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Standing at a firing line, shooting paper or steel, my Shiloh #1 Sporter in 40-2.5 with MVA front and tang sights. Hunting...wow, hard to say, one of 3 or 4; 1908 Mannlicher/Schoenauer in 8 X 56, '98 Mauser by A. Strover in 8 X 57, Johann Peterlongo, '98 Mauser in 9 X 71 Peterlongo or lastly, a Mod. 46 Husky in 9.3 X 57. For smaller game it would be a toss up between a Jeffery Rook rifle in 25-20 or a Bartles stalking rifle in 8.15 X 46R. Can't you afford a nice new rifle?😛
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