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Enjoying full-fat milk, yogurt, cheese and butter is unlikely to send people to an early grave, according to new research by The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston (UTHealth).

The study, published today in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, found no significant link between dairy fats and cause of death or, more specifically, heart disease and stroke – two of the country’s biggest killers often associated with a diet high in saturated fat. In fact, certain types of dairy fat may help guard against having a severe stroke, the researchers reported.

“Our findings not only support, but also significantly strengthen, the growing body of evidence which suggests that dairy fat, contrary to popular belief, does not increase risk of heart disease or overall mortality in older adults. In addition to not contributing to death, the results suggest that one fatty acid present in dairy may lower risk of death from cardiovascular disease, particularly from stroke,” said Marcia Otto, Ph.D.

https://www.uth.edu/media/story.htm?id=1692785a-5886-46e8-8186-230d71b834ac

not that I ever cared. Few things I enjoy more than real butter on fresh bread out of the oven. I won't eat that plastic margarine crap

My take on this is if I die from whole milk, butter, bacon etc. I win!!

Agree wholeheartedly (pun intended.)

It's one of the things the "natural foods" crowd has right. I'll agree that pasteurizing is good, but other than that leave my dairy products alone. Milk, cheese, and butter are best just the way nature provides them.

I hate to be a wet blanket, I take the advice of the Mayo Clinic. Carry on.

Good luck even buying "Whole Milk" anymore.

Even that milk that is marketed as such... Isn't.

And the USDA has made buying it from dairies unlawful.

If you want whole milk, you'd better have a milk cow.

I've come to believe that most of the "natural" fats aren't nearly as unhealthy as they've been made out to be in the past. I do believe the sheer abundance available can be a problem because calories are still calories and you can eat a LOT of calories in a hurry on a high fight diet.

The way I understood it the connection between a high fat diet and heart disease and stroke was a fabrication put forth by a study that was paid for by the sugar lobby....

Every year, the science "proves" something different.

All done with a "grant" of some sort. AKA... Tax Money.

The tootster ain’t drinking any milk I can see through. Louisiana allows the sale of whole, unpasteurized milk at farmers’ markets and Feliciana Dairy, local, sells whole milk with cream clods floating on top. Don’t say it can’t be done. The Feliciana Dairy milk is all we drink and if you want it you better get it upon delivery cause it don’t last long once in the cooler.

As long as it only erases the last 5 years of my life, I'm good with it. Now if it nailed me during the first 5, I might be a little upset.

I hear ya.. That yellow plastic crap will NEVER (I repeat NEVER) make it over the door sill in this house!!


THAT!

Everything in mode rations is generally not gonna kill ya. He'll you can take heroin-arsenic and all that crap in small doses. I really doubt if butter or sugar is gonna kill ya. Ed k

Yeah, some states now allow that on a limited basis.

Federal law prohibits the majority of milk from being sold due to their jurisdiction on milk crossing state lines.



This site shows what's allowed in which states.

https://milk.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005192

Louisiana prohibits sale of raw milk.



https://milk.procon.org/sourcefiles/louisiana-raw-milk-code.pdf

Here's Idaho regulation on selling raw milk:

"Any producer selling unpasteurized milk or unpasteurized milk products in Idaho must have a Small Herd Exemption or Herd Share Permit. The Small Herd Exemption animal limit is no more than 7 milking goats or sheep and no more than 3 milking cows. All animals participating in the program will be tested annually for brucellosis and tuberculosis. All products for sale by producer will be collected monthly by an ISDA inspector and tested for bacteria, somatic cell count, drugs and coliform by the Idaho State Dairy Lab."

A number of people can go together and own shares in cows or goats as long as the milk isn't sold. They still have to go through rigorous testing.
The reason the requirement for pasteurization is there is because of TB and brucellosis. Anyone who doesn't test for them is a complete idiot. TB used to be a major killer before pasteurization requirements were established.

TB was largely a disease that was eliminated in the U.S. until unmitigated wetbacks from 3rd world countries were allowed inside our borders unregulated, and without question.

Yep. I believe the last TB Sanitariums in Illinois were closed in the mid-'70s when the disease was considered to be very nearly eliminated.

the margarine...stop with the piling on

That's what she said?