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Neither of those videos had anything to do with accuracy. They were about velocity and the deviation thereof. With that, and that Labradar, i thought he laid that out pretty well. He has other videos on accuracy. I'll give Wolf a try.
My mindset going in to the 7.62x39 was that I didn't want to handload for it. Rather, take advantage of low cost ammo.
Who knows, I might end up handloading a bit too.
Shane, if you decide to load up some of your own, Starline has been offering 7.62x39 for a few months now.
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MM...agree with dirt, Tula for me has been by far the worst of them all.
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I'll probably try out some American Eagle, and some Golden Bear. See how those pan out.
I've heard of people getting good accuracy with 7.62x39 in the AR, in the 1-2 moa range.
I knew going in that Tula was the cheapest ammo, so I didn't buy 1000 rounds or anything like that.
I've got about 300 rounds of the Tula left. Even at 4 moa, it's fine for offhand practice, or taking for a hike for a defensive load.
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..........Shane, if you decide to load up some of your own, Starline has been offering 7.62x39 for a few months now. I saw that Starline 7.62x39 brass at Midway. I was looking at brass and dies a while back, but haven't bought any yet.
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nephews 125s in the model one sales upper would shoot around an inch or just under for a few 3 shot groups that I ran over paper a few times. Yeah it proves nothing but it beats 4 moa. 4 moa makes me shudder. LOL. 4 moa added to my wobble.. teaches me nothing and makes me wonder where the next round will wander. LOL
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................4 moa makes me shudder. LOL. 4 moa added to my wobble.. teaches me nothing and makes me wonder where the next round will wander. LOL I hear ya. 4 moa, think of it as '308 appreciation training'. 10 rounds at 100 with the Rem 700 308Win,
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Nice.. .when you have ones that shoot like that, I don't have time for 4moa ones. LOL
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Daytona received my upper yesterday so I’m just waiting for them to get to it and see what they offer to do
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Well I got a brand new upper in the mail today. They shipped it only a couple days after they received mine so it was a pretty fast turnaround. All in all I’m satisfied.. on one hand they definetly made it right. Tho I feel they absolutely should have considering the round count being under 2K. On the other hand it would be nice if they answered emails without having to be reminded to answer their emails
I specifically asked them to let me know what happened to the upper, purely out of curiosity. I know some of you wanted to know as well. But no correspondence at all. Just an email saying I had a package coming. Anyway that’s all there is..I’ll get back to hammering on this one now I guess
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Tried some Hornady steel case 123gr SST at 100 yards today. Intended to get a 10-shot group, but the weather rolled in on me (50's raining, breezy, odd August day). Anyhoo, I put some glass on the carbine to give the benefit over my eyes and irons. Leupold 2.5-8x36. Groups shrank for the Tula to under 3" for 5 shots, and 3.5" for 10 shots (9 into under 3"). The Hornady I only managed a 5-shot group at 2.3", with three of those touching. Weather turned on me for serious testing.
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MM.. they aren’t the most accurate but they sure are fun no?
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True that.
It was an itch I had to scratch. Glad I did.
Still a lot of discovery learning to do here.
I might try to load up some 155 Amax or ELD-M just for S&G, see how they shoot.
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Tried some Hornady steel case 123gr SST at 100 yards today.
Just out of curiosity, have you fired that stuff over a chrono with that rifle? I'd be interested to know the velocity from that 16" AR.
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I didn't shoot through the chrono today, but I'll do that in the future. Curious myself.
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Cool, I'll keep my eyes peeled for your report, thanks!
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7.62x39 definitely benefits from the cheap surplus ammo, but did you consider 300BO at all when starting this project, Shane? I've always been a fan of it in AK's and a few SKS's years ago, but been playing with the AAC in a 700 bolt gun and it's a cool little round too. Been thinking I need one in an AR platform. Was considering the 7.62x39 too, so wondering what pushed you that way.
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I went back and forth between 300BO and 7.62x39.
Eventually I went with the cheap ammo option, as I'm trying not to get into reloading another chambering.
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Got some velocity data on the Hornady 123gr SST, and the Tula 124gr FMJ, using the Magnetospeed chrono. 16" barrel, carbine gas system, 75F. Hornady 123gr SST: 2346 2372 2388 2382 2363 average: 2370 Tula 124gr FMJ: 2409 2424 2464 2481 2442 average: 2444
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Interesting to see the accuracy on those 2 rounds.
Btw, SGAmmo has some decent prices on various mfgr 7.62x39 on their Labor Day sale.
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The Hornady 123gr SST does show some promise with 3 of 5 shots touching at 100 yards from a non-floated barrel, off a less than steady table in a bit of wind. I'd get down on the ground to get steadier, but I'd have to cut too much grass to see my target.
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