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I would suggest that the brain is being "rewired" or developing at least through early primary school. Popular sources have said through high school.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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I've been around enough truly intelligent people to know that I'm not a part of their faction. This. But I do find the company of true intellectuals to be very stimulating. I spent a number of years being responsible for the health and safety of people whose intellect and problem solving abilities earned them the status of National Assets. I found them to be, generally, very curious and very open to learning new things which made my job much easier than it was when working w/ normal folks. I was sometimes in their company for several months in austere environments and enjoyed their adaptability and generally active sense of humor. I found over the years that uncertain conditions and high pressure situations are better handled by smarter people. I also learned to believe in the accuracy of the Dunning-Kruger effect. mike r
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The CDC/Used condom report spells it out pretty clearly as to what WE are up against in the low-info category. They are voting & breeding. What’s a condom?
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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I would suggest that the brain is being "rewired" or developing at least through early primary school. Popular sources have said through high school. There is pretty much a consensus in Neurology that the brain is more "elastic" in the first three years of development, when our capacity for learning language and social skills is at it's highest. This is when adverse environment can have the most damaging impact on development. That said, capacity still varies by individual based on genetics.
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I've been around enough truly intelligent people to know that I'm not a part of their faction. This. But I do find the company of true intellectuals to be very stimulating. I spent a number of years being responsible for the health and safety of people whose intellect and problem solving abilities earned them the status of National Assets. I found them to be, generally, very curious and very open to learning new things which made my job much easier than it was when working w/ normal folks. I was sometimes in their company for several months in austere environments and enjoyed their adaptability and generally active sense of humor. I found over the years that uncertain conditions and high pressure situations are better handled by smarter people. I also learned to believe in the accuracy of the Dunning-Kruger effect. mike r Mike, I'm glad I don't have to be smart................................because there's the Internet! https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Dunning-Kruger+effect.&t=ffsb&ia=webGeno PS wikipedia apparently knows EVERYTHING! PPS if one believes that they are likely to buy items that may not be the bargain they seem...bridges, land in FL, statements about checks being in the mail
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Sure, mostly genetic, but that can be nurtured to develop innate faculties and I think expand those faculties at least marginally. But that's way out of my line (why I merely "suggest")
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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I'm glad I don't have to be smart................................because there's the Internet! grin
Who do ya think yer foolin'. Else you would've said "innanet." Is a handy hook for things on the edge of your mind.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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I dont think intelligence has anything to do with it.
That's the dumbest smart thing I've seen on the 'fire. Geno PS, it's don't, not dont. PPS I think gdub posted some list about bein' smart. That correcting people in public crap is one of my downfalls. I see you’re still angling for a Smartest Man on Fire Award...Geno, there’s always next year. I promise. 😁😎 Gee, thanks..............I guess. I was hoping for Handsomest next year..............................Jim's a shoe in though. Geno PS, the reason Jim's a shoe in? .......He could be a cousin. We all's handsome devils I tells ya'
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Voted for Trump. According to Hillary's count, that makes me smarter than most.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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I'm glad I don't have to be smart................................because there's the Internet! grin
Who do ya think yer foolin'. Else you would've said "innanet." Is a handy hook for things on the edge of your mind. Oops, my mistake, I didn't notice that the auto correct had fixxed that. Geno PS "innanet"? That's what happened when I played tennis. The ball kept on goin' innanet, not ova da net.
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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Half the population has a below average median IQ. Saw that coming.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Half the population has a below average median IQ. Saw that coming. Great. Do you use a turn signal?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Unfortunately, there are people responsible for setting standards for schools that make a goal of having all students above the 50th percentile.
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Half the population has a below average median IQ. Saw that coming. Great. Do you use a turn signal? Yup. Don't use a turn lane as a merge lane though.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
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I recommend reading Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliars.
It's a flowing read; not stuffy, considering the topics he covers. He has a great section on IQ and how it relates to success and includes other factors that are as , or more important.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
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I know several really intelligent people that have ZERO common sense, and they voted for the Witch of Cappaqua. In so-called "educated people", common sense seems to be an uncommon virtue.
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I know several really intelligent people that have ZERO common sense, and they voted for the Witch of Cappaqua. In so-called "educated people", common sense seems to be an uncommon virtue. Education and innate intellect are two entirely different things.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Half the population has a below average median IQ. Saw that coming. Great. Do you use a turn signal? Yup. Don't use a turn lane as a merge lane though. Then you're a genius.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Intelligence and wisdom are not the same. Intelligence without wisdom is worthless at best, and in most cases, it's dangerous. Wisdom is far more valuable to mankind and always has been.
I'd rather have a cup full of wisdom then a train car full of intelligence.
Those that have neither are easy to spot by most other people. Those that have both are easy to spot by most other people.
Those that have either intelligence alone or wisdom alone, are recognized only if the ones doing the spotting also have wisdom.
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It seems that intelligence is not seen as a worthy trait by many people. I don't know if it is threatening to admit that there are people out there who possess more intelligence than others, but there always seems to be a need to denigrate those who have a higher level of intelligence.
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