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Everything is bigger in Texas. Even the blowhards......
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While you are check and click click'ing, a man with a 350 yd zero rifle is putting the crosshairs on the boiler room and pulling the trigger. By the time you get through check and click click'ing, that Bull just might have walked behind trees in a heavy covered area on the side of that ridge, and you can't/won't see him walking off through the trees...never to be seen again during your hunt.
I know of what I'm talking about. I hunt a ranch as I just described. There's a reason you count horns with your scope in certain hunting environments.
So, so, so. You are shooting at Elk that "may" be 500 yards away-you don't know, because you have't ranged them, remember you didn't check- - Let’see. Hmmm. I ‘ve never stated I “don’t” use a rangefinder. When you’ve hunted the same place for over 20 years, you really don’t need to “range” the areas you “normally” glass and know the landmark distances out to 400, 450, 500…do you? that are possibly moving in and out of trees in "a heavy covered area"? If you knew anything about hunting ridges close to one another with a small valley separating you, and you also know how elk move…stop…graze…move…stop…graze. If you have “actually” hunted the deep back country ridges and Black Timber, you would know what I’m talking about…but you don’t. Some of these guys know what they are talking about and can spot the BS way past 500. Yeah, 4K – 20K+ posts will make a keyboard elk hunter look real smart to another keyboard elk hunter, won’t it? You should stick to shooting tables. Who needs a shooting table when they consistently tag 300+ class Bulls. I’ll just stick to shooting 300+ class Bulls…yooooou can stick to your keyboard and the shooting tables.
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Dude............ I'm guessing a few of us here have killed an elk. Maybe even 2. My money is on the guys responding to you in any situation you describe. Hey Bubba… I’m guessing you’re one of the best keyboard elk hunters I’ve ever had the pleasure of meeting. I humbly bow to and acknowledge your ability at keyboard hunting with your many days afield, (4,000+posts) My money says you’ve worn out several keyboards while afield. I'll keep that in mind. What are these elk things you refer to?
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You need to re-read and comprehend what I posted instead of jumping on the train to bust my balls...... The only train on here is the one pulling the boxcars full of what you don't know. You do realize someone who consistantly tags 300+ class Bulls probably does "know" how to Elk Hunt? Sad...I guess you don't realize that. This thread was about possible LR hunting, not threading the needle in the bush, was it not?...
No, it was not. 400 yards is not "long range" and the OP said he may have to shoot out to 400 which means anywhere from zero to 400 yards. As others have pointed out that usually means closer to zero than 400. Ummm....The OP said, "400 and BEYOND. If you want to debate, you might want to start by being TRUTHFUL You don't have that time to "check and click click'ing" when they are 300-500 yards across a small valley walking through openings on the opposite ridge from you...I guarantee you. And I can guarantee you that you don't necessarily need to twist turrets to be on at 400 with a 100 yard zero.
Yep, modern day scopes with their variety of recticles will allow you to. Regular duplex will too if you know what you are doing...no adjustment out to 500 with a 200 yard zero.
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Is it one of these?
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Maybe like this?
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Wait - maybe like this? We could do this for a while............
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I’m no LR shooter, but do know at 350-500 in “heavy cover” one best take the time to study exactly what is between you and the animal. When they are walking around it becomes harder. You do realize when you’re standing on one ridge glassing across a small valley to the opposing ridge there is only atmosphere between you and the elk while they are moving along the ridge in and out of cover...right? Of course you don’t. That is why you continually embarrass yourself with your posts while you attempt to bust my balls. You keep punching your keys buddy. I’ll keep punching my tags. He should take his theory over to the LR forum and see how it goes there, because table shooting isn’t getting much play here. Yep…yep…keyboard shooting here is in full play, isn’t it? You keep punching your keys buddy. I’ll keep punching my tags.
"He is far from Stupid"
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I’ve not known battue to embarrass himself.
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I’ve not known battue to embarrass himself.
Nope DF
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This guy elkslayer91 is quite an expert...
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Everything is bigger in Texas. Even the blowhards...... If it weren't for Texans spending money in your state, skiing and hunting, your state would be broke. Go blow that fact...
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I’ve not known battue to embarrass himself.
Nope DF Triple nope.
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This guy elkslayer91 is quite an expert... …at debating people who want to obfuscate facts with their non-truthful postings, insults, and attempts at degrading someone who simply made a posting to help a fellow hunter. This pile of crap you guys turned this thread into is on you, not me. I DID NOT START THIS CRAP.
"He is far from Stupid"
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Thanks to all, appreciate it. And while I'm far from an Elk expert, I do know a little about hunting in "Heavy Cover" and how it applies to Big Game shooting opportunities. I still suggest he take his theories over to the LR forum and have the experts comment. I have doubts that will happen.
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I’ve not known battue to embarrass himself.
Nope DF X5
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Everything is bigger in Texas. Even the blowhards...... If it weren't for Texans spending money in your state, skiing and hunting, your state would be broke. ... I'll take that trade.
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I shot this cow elk at 53 yards with a 7mm-08.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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I shot this cow elk at 53 yards with a 7mm-08. You SOB, you owe me a keyboard. I’m still waiting for my insult, I feel left out. P
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
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It's always about penetration.. That’s what she said.
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