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What do y'all think? I picked up a 2016 F-150 and dislike the "rake" they have in them. I'd also like to run a bit bigger tire. 33" or so. Do you need to have the aligned after they're installed?
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They do look better with a slight front lift to get things closer to level. Totally level is a bad idea, as any weight in the bed on on the tongue makes the truck squat in the back and looks funky. I had one in that body style and it wore 33x11.25" metric tires on 18" wheels with no rubbing and no front spacers. Doing it again, I'd get a small front spacer lift. Alignment is suggested afterwards.
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You can run 33's on the truck with the stock suspension unless the tires are really wide and not on factory rims. I'm going to 275/75/18's soon, they are 33.2" and I won't have any issues.
I don't care for the front leveling unless the rear is lifted too. To me it looks like someone started lifting the truck and only had enough money to do the front half and plan to do the back later.
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My 08 Dodge diesel has 4 doors and a long bed. It's 23' long. It sits fairly level stock but when I put a stock rack with critters on it and hang my camp trailer behind it, it does squat a bit. I also have air bags that nicely bring it up to wherever I want it, adding some good weight capacity.
If you raise the front to level one, a set of air bags will take care of that squatting problem when you load it.
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Don’t forget to aim your headlights after you’ve leveled it. Pet peeve of mine.
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You can run 33's on the truck with the stock suspension unless the tires are really wide and not on factory rims. I'm going to 275/75/18's soon, they are 33.2" and I won't have any issues.
I don't care for the front leveling unless the rear is lifted too. To me it looks like someone started lifting the truck and only had enough money to do the front half and plan to do the back later. Thanks. It has 275/65/18 now. The back is lifted about 2-3" higher than the front. With the loads I'm hauling it's not squatting enough to matter much. I'm pulling probably 2000 pounds every weekend between a boat and a few wheelers and gear. I won't be switching wheels, so factrory'ish width.
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Go with Bilstein 5100’s with the ring one below the tallest setting. That way it won’t have soo much rake but doesnt look stupid when you put weight in the bed or hook up a trailer. 275/70/18’s (33”) will fit perfect. Before After
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Tzone, Got a 16 f150 as well.. I did what Alaska cub did went with Bilstein 5100’s. Did front and back cant remember the settings. Like 2.5 in front like 1 in the back.. Also put a blocker in the back,so dont get that cargo bed dragging on the highway when pulling...
For summer tires kept Ford factory rim 18inch and put on 295 michelen defender. For winter( ice fishing mainly why) went with after market 18 inch and Nitto ridge grapplers 295.. Very happy with these in snow...
Went with 295 cause gives you the height and not the huge extra width.. Always been i believer skinny width is better for snow..
I have always wanted to level a truck, glad i did. The ride is way better then factory shocks. People have commented how smooth it is for having a bigger tires.. I hated that rake in the front as well.. I also like the fact that it does not look to crazy.Like a 6 inch lift.. The only time you see a difference is when i am parked next to a regular f150..
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Noduck,
I'm a believer in the skinny tires for snow as well. Did you need an alignment for the bilstein's after install? I'm not too worried about gas mileage. I'm getting almost 20 now with mixed driving, more highway at the moment.
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lots of folks do it up here. Never been a fan, as badger said most melt your eyes with their damned headlights. I guess if you don't plan on using it as a truck leveling makes sense? They look retarded to me.
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I couldn't stand the rake on my Tundra, so I did the Bilstien in the front set on 2" setting...however, I also put airbags in the back so i never have the rear sag. Run 275/70/18 33.2" BFG tires....The look is exactly what I was wanting....You will need to realign if you go with the bilstien shocks lifted.
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Yep need alignment afterwards.. And depending on how much you tow. I have been getting by with a block, to avoid the squat.. Most ive pulled is a 18ft boat. or like 2,000 pounds, Yeti icehouse, or trailer with atv's. Has not moved at all.. And cheaper than airbags....
If i were to pull a lot with heavier loads totally get air bags....
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With my airbags, I can tow my 8500# - approx 1k tounge - RV with absolutely zero squat. - run them on 55 pounds.
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I installed the Bilstein 5100s on my '11 F150 one setting below max height to get a little more ground clearance and it was just about level. As Alaskacub said, it rode nose up when I towed or threw gear in the bed. It drove me nuts so I installed an add-a-leaf. No problems with squatting after that. There are tons of threads about leveling kits, Bilstein 5100s, and similar height adjustable shocks (Fox/ Icon/ Boss) along with installation tips on F150forum.com. As others have said, you will need to have a wheel alignment after installation.
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IMG_1169 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/165056183 N04/] Tzone heres my truck!!!!!!!!! 295 with nitto ridge tires.. Picture has a bad angle they look wide, but the width is barely pass the fender wall.
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IMG_1169 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/165056183 N04/] Tzone heres my truck!!!!!!!!! 295 with nitto ridge tires.. Picture has a bad angle they look wide, but the width is barely pass the fender wall. I like it. It looks good man.
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I put the Fox 2.0 adjustable shocks on my 2015. I am running 285/60/20 duratracs on mine. I believe they are around a 34" tall tire. It rides way better than with the garbage factory shocks.
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The shocks might be the way I'm going to go. Everyone that has them seems to like them.
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Hey Tom, long time. not sure if you seen mine the last time, but on my 14' and 16' f-150's I had level kits put in the day I bought them. I ran 276/65/20's on both trucks. the look is way better and I don't believe the ride changed at all. I am putting a 2.5" level kit in my new truck today as well. we'll see how that turns out. any questions I can surely send you pics. my 14 has 85k and the 16 has 60 now.
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Just ordered a 2” Auto Spring levelling kit for the front and 3” blocks for the rear to keep some of the rake. Looked at the shocks and may go that route when the factory ones wear out and I will look at the fox shocks with new springs. Also a bit cheaper to go this route at this point in my life...no doubt the shocks are better but you pay for it
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