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Originally Posted by VaHillbilly
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Ft pds?


Hahaha....

Lol....i fixed it, thanks for posting the youtube video.......Hb


No, you didn't fix it; made it worse actually. Foot pounds = ft-lb, not ft pds or ft/pd or anything like that. Pounds = lb

Ft/lb is torque, like you'd apply to the lug nuts on your car, or your truck engine delivers.

Ft-lb is energy when we're talking about ballistics.

Besides, there are a lot more important things to consider than energy.

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Originally Posted by Higbean
Ft pds?


Hahaha....

Lol....i fixed it, thanks for posting the youtube video.......Hb


No, you didn't fix it; made it worse actually. Foot pounds = ft-lb, not ft pds or ft/pd or anything like that. Pounds = lb

Ft/lb is torque, like you'd apply to the lug nuts on your car, or your truck engine delivers.

Ft-lb is energy when we're talking about ballistics.

Besides, there are a lot more important things to consider than energy.


Torque is in units of force * distance. (in-lbf, ft-lbf, N-m, etc). Force x moment arm.

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I get a kick outta guys who get a kick outta guys that don't need permission to like what they like.


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Jeezus Fhuqking Gawd...what a right proper Whining CLUELESS Fhuqking Kchunt Convention! Congratulations?!?

It's never been difficult to cypher,who actually shoots and who sure in the fhuqk do not. HINT.

Will a .264" 147 ELD,fly shy of a .284" 180 ELD's splendor? Yep. Why? Bullets matter wayyyyyyyy more than fhuqking headstamps and the .697BC of the 147,just "happens" to be shy of the .796 Magnitude of the 180. Can/will a Barrett Fieldcraft Smooch both from OEM mag confines? Assuredly. Best bullet ALWAYS fhuqking wins. Hint. Read that again. Now one more time and feel free to nod your empty heads,like you "understand". Laffin'!

Feel free to add case capacity beyond the 264 Kreedmire's cubic volume and whether it 260 or 260AI with 147's...the "lowly" 7-08 still remains King(easy to spot some barrel length too). HINT. I realize that Facts and Physics are rather upsetting to The Do Nothing Gang and that certainly do bolster the fhuqking Humor Quotient. I also VERY much enjoyed the "notion" that all cartridges are "equal" inside the 500yd line,in regards to boolits and their affects,in a myriad of combinations!!! Lemme letcha' in on a leetle "secret" and that's the simplistic constant,that nothing matters more than boolits,at any fhuqking distance. Hint. Now you Amazingly STUPID Fhuqks "know" that too. Laffin'! Easy for me to say,if only because I shoot it all and then some. For the Slowest of the fhuqking SLOW,the 180 ELD don't suck outta a 7-08AI either. You'll wanna read that again,as Sensory Overload kicks in. Subtle HINT.

1000 words in Splendid Pixels. AICS unbindered for the .473's and Montucky OEM Issued COAL Smooches for the .532. Google it! Laffin'!

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I also very much enjoy The Ruse,that yesterday's 'Swede,"equalled" a Kreedmire. It couldn't,wouldn't,didn't...because them boolits had yet to be Invented. HINT. Not that I don't always enjoy some Pavement Pounder waxing eloquent through quivering lips and trembling fingers,with Sectional Density Delusions and other contrived bullschit. RE-HINT. Laffin'!

There is only (1) chambering thus far cited in this Thread that I do not own,that because it's a piece of fhuqking schit,though I have shot it in Krunchentickers and that's the .450 Bushmaster. Rather like the full length parent in .243",.257",.264",.308" and 338",but was too much of a good thang in .224"(for me).

The same old never Have Done A Fhuqking Thing,Or Ever Will Do A Fhuqking Thing Whiners,gotta plagiarize charts and unleash their Imagination and it's Pretend,as a "foothold". Funny schit and I mean fhuqking FUNNY!

Pardon the FACT,that boolits matter in a Krunchenticker,even when fed ASC's. Hint. The 22 Grendel/75 ELD Krunchenticker Smooches and 243 Grendel/105'Max/HPBT and 108 ELD Krunchenticker Smooches are simply sensational. I tossed a 6BR/105 'Max/HPBT Smooch in bindered AICS Primal Guts or bindered AICS PVA Guts in the fray,so you "hard chargers" can say you've "seen" one of them too and pardon the 270 with 105's in AM 5-round Defaulters. As an aside,pass Primal Guts and hold the Fluff. Hint. Laffin'! Google away,you STUPID Fhuqks.

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Heed false shoulders,Smooches,throat geometry and COAL latitude,if only obviously...while everything is the "same" inside the 500yd line. I'm fhuqking CRYIN'...I'm LAFFIN' soooooooooo hard. You poor poor(literally) STUPID Fhuqks. Hint. Nod in unison,like you "understand". A pun be fhuqking intended,to boot. Laffin'!

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Now it'll only come as a "surprise" to THE Peckerpole Princess,that not all actions are equal. Hint. As fhuqking MAGNIFICENT as the Barrett Short Action Fieldcrafts are,their Long Actions suck ass,due simply to COAL latitude,which precludes ring the bell and now you can say you "know" that too. Same goes Teeker,Ruger and the ilk. Hint. LAFFFIN'!

All "new" to me!!! You gals REALLY get to "see" and "do" it "all" and LUCKILY for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". HINT. Laffin'!

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It never ain't not funnier than fhuqk,to hand CLUELESS Dumb Fhuqks all of the slack on the rope,in which they "think" they can "handle". You gals are doing "GREAT". Hint. Laffin'!!!

Be sure to get lippy,if you dare pry your kchunts from the couch and the Cat don't get your tongues. Do not "forget" particulars,even though you have ZERO savvy on what do what,or why. Twist,throat geometry and COAL latitude are THE heartbeat of any/all rifles and it is never not a fascinating journey,for sooooo many to soooooooo badly botch the obvious,by doing their BEST,as factored by their "knowledge","experience" and "results"...you "lucky" kchunts!!! Oh and say sumptin' about scopes too. Hint. Laffin'!

Such things just "happen" to matter in Rimfire and now you Stupid Fhuqks can say you "know" that too!

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If'n you are gonna slum Factory Fodder,it's Kreedmire by a mile. If you are loading for a sound rifle and don't "forget" about Twist,throat geometry and COAL latitude...the 7mm is King. But none of you Stupid Fhuqks has the savvy to set a rifle up,to eek even 30% of the goody outta it and please do not discount that Humor Quotient either. 'Tis a simply shame,you CLUELESS Kchunts are devoid an inkling,to the outright MAGNIFICENCE of your Stupidity. Hint.

You've been led to water.

Thank me later.

BINGO!

Laffin'!

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Originally Posted by BMR
I think the first step in your education is the spelling of the cartridge. It’s “Creedmoor.”



I am shocked! You actually referred to it as cartridge instead of caliber. Bravo!


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Stick, work smart not hard. Easier to hunt this schit with a 30-30 and save your money and time for good pussy. smile

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Originally Posted by VaHillbilly
Cool, thanks Higbean, I liked that old dudes video.....I just looked over Hornadys factory ballistics chart and compared the energy rating of the 6.5 Creed with 143 grain ELD-X ( 1302 ft/pd @500yds) to the Hornady factory .300 Win 200 grain ELD-X (2033 ft/pd @500 yds) or the .300 Win 180 gr GMX (1858 ft/pd @500yds) thats at least 550 ft pounds more energy...so what is Spoomer refering to here? Is Hornady paying him to push their 6.5 Creed maybe?......Or is he refering to energys at even further distances than 500 yds that are not listed?.......Hb


my friend keep crunching them numbers to beyond 600 and the CM starts to pass. Less recoil, less powder etc.. I really dislike recoil so I'm a big fan of the 6.5CM, .260rem and 7-08.


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Originally Posted by 16bore
Judman......


Pardon me not affording the luxury of not having 15 football fields in the middle of nowhere to do nothing on my couchbound [bleep] and do the same thing over and over again whilst bragging on 20 yard noggin shots for elusive wild game in my front yard on the Milford reservation and hard charging some stuff with a camera in tow and all that jazz....google it


Fretty....

I'll be supplized when the new 6.5 Fred hits the Walmart shelves a la Corlokts at $15.99/box.



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Are Jay....

The swedish meat ball cant hang because its like trying to put together IKEA furniture. Confusion in any language, even with splendid pixels and cartoon pictures....you've been led to Swiss Miss hot chocolate.


Ag seven eight....

What's this "new" 7-08 all about? I've shot every one on the planet.....


Not hard to decipher who shoots and who don't and who hunts and who buys ammo at Walmart and who can make a boolschit list in excel that dispels all the myths to keep the 'fire burning.

Here's to plenty of windshield and kissing and rocking on.....

Laffin....

Laughing....

I'm crying....

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Stick, work smart not hard. Easier to hunt this schit with a 30-30 and save your money and time for good pussy. smile

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That's some classic PA hunting woods if I ever seen it. And you're right, that's why I always keep a 30-30 around.

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Originally Posted by Boxer
Jeezus Fhuqking Gawd...what a right proper Whining CLUELESS Fhuqking Kchunt Convention! Congratulations?!?

It's never been difficult to cypher,who actually shoots and who sure in the fhuqk do not. HINT.

Will a .264" 147 ELD,fly shy of a .284" 180 ELD's splendor? Yep. Why? Bullets matter wayyyyyyyy more than fhuqking headstamps and the .697BC of the 147,just "happens" to be shy of the .796 Magnitude of the 180. Can/will a Barrett Fieldcraft Smooch both from OEM mag confines? Assuredly. Best bullet ALWAYS fhuqking wins. Hint. Read that again. Now one more time and feel free to nod your empty heads,like you "understand". Laffin'!

Feel free to add case capacity beyond the 264 Kreedmire's cubic volume and whether it 260 or 260AI with 147's...the "lowly" 7-08 still remains King(easy to spot some barrel length too). HINT. I realize that Facts and Physics are rather upsetting to The Do Nothing Gang and that certainly do bolster the fhuqking Humor Quotient. I also VERY much enjoyed the "notion" that all cartridges are "equal" inside the 500yd line,in regards to boolits and their affects,in a myriad of combinations!!! Lemme letcha' in on a leetle "secret" and that's the simplistic constant,that nothing matters more than boolits,at any fhuqking distance. Hint. Now you Amazingly STUPID Fhuqks "know" that too. Laffin'! Easy for me to say,if only because I shoot it all and then some. For the Slowest of the fhuqking SLOW,the 180 ELD don't suck outta a 7-08AI either. You'll wanna read that again,as Sensory Overload kicks in. Subtle HINT.

1000 words in Splendid Pixels. AICS unbindered for the .473's and Montucky OEM Issued COAL Smooches for the .532. Google it! Laffin'!

[Linked Image]
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I also very much enjoy The Ruse,that yesterday's 'Swede,"equalled" a Kreedmire. It couldn't,wouldn't,didn't...because them boolits had yet to be Invented. HINT. Not that I don't always enjoy some Pavement Pounder waxing eloquent through quivering lips and trembling fingers,with Sectional Density Delusions and other contrived bullschit. RE-HINT. Laffin'!

There is only (1) chambering thus far cited in this Thread that I do not own,that because it's a piece of fhuqking schit,though I have shot it in Krunchentickers and that's the .450 Bushmaster. Rather like the full length parent in .243",.257",.264",.308" and 338",but was too much of a good thang in .224"(for me).

The same old never Have Done A Fhuqking Thing,Or Ever Will Do A Fhuqking Thing Whiners,gotta plagiarize charts and unleash their Imagination and it's Pretend,as a "foothold". Funny schit and I mean fhuqking FUNNY!

Pardon the FACT,that boolits matter in a Krunchenticker,even when fed ASC's. Hint. The 22 Grendel/75 ELD Krunchenticker Smooches and 243 Grendel/105'Max/HPBT and 108 ELD Krunchenticker Smooches are simply sensational. I tossed a 6BR/105 'Max/HPBT Smooch in bindered AICS Primal Guts or bindered AICS PVA Guts in the fray,so you "hard chargers" can say you've "seen" one of them too and pardon the 270 with 105's in AM 5-round Defaulters. As an aside,pass Primal Guts and hold the Fluff. Hint. Laffin'! Google away,you STUPID Fhuqks.

[Linked Image]

Heed false shoulders,Smooches,throat geometry and COAL latitude,if only obviously...while everything is the "same" inside the 500yd line. I'm fhuqking CRYIN'...I'm LAFFIN' soooooooooo hard. You poor poor(literally) STUPID Fhuqks. Hint. Nod in unison,like you "understand". A pun be fhuqking intended,to boot. Laffin'!

[Linked Image]


Now it'll only come as a "surprise" to THE Peckerpole Princess,that not all actions are equal. Hint. As fhuqking MAGNIFICENT as the Barrett Short Action Fieldcrafts are,their Long Actions suck ass,due simply to COAL latitude,which precludes ring the bell and now you can say you "know" that too. Same goes Teeker,Ruger and the ilk. Hint. LAFFFIN'!

All "new" to me!!! You gals REALLY get to "see" and "do" it "all" and LUCKILY for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". HINT. Laffin'!

[Linked Image]




It never ain't not funnier than fhuqk,to hand CLUELESS Dumb Fhuqks all of the slack on the rope,in which they "think" they can "handle". You gals are doing "GREAT". Hint. Laffin'!!!

Be sure to get lippy,if you dare pry your kchunts from the couch and the Cat don't get your tongues. Do not "forget" particulars,even though you have ZERO savvy on what do what,or why. Twist,throat geometry and COAL latitude are THE heartbeat of any/all rifles and it is never not a fascinating journey,for sooooo many to soooooooo badly botch the obvious,by doing their BEST,as factored by their "knowledge","experience" and "results"...you "lucky" kchunts!!! Oh and say sumptin' about scopes too. Hint. Laffin'!

Such things just "happen" to matter in Rimfire and now you Stupid Fhuqks can say you "know" that too!

[Linked Image]

If'n you are gonna slum Factory Fodder,it's Kreedmire by a mile. If you are loading for a sound rifle and don't "forget" about Twist,throat geometry and COAL latitude...the 7mm is King. But none of you Stupid Fhuqks has the savvy to set a rifle up,to eek even 30% of the goody outta it and please do not discount that Humor Quotient either. 'Tis a simply shame,you CLUELESS Kchunts are devoid an inkling,to the outright MAGNIFICENCE of your Stupidity. Hint.

You've been led to water.

Thank me later.

BINGO!

Laffin'!

WOW +P++!!!


So your saying BC maters???? Even while hitting house sized targets at 1400 yards with a fixed 6??? You’ve got to be shiitting on me????


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Originally Posted by Mike74
The man has spoken!


That's what I was waiting on!


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Finally got your permission slip signed.

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Originally Posted by 16bore
Finally got your permission slip signed.


LMAO! Didn't need his permission, just wanted his insight.

Love him or hate him, he does make some valid points; I don't always agree, but he's not a fhuqking winder licking idiot. HINT.

He has some very good You-Tube videos that are worth your time.

What really scares me is, I've gone back and read through enough of his posts, that I can now fluently read and understand everything he's saying. It's like speaking a second language. Laffin'!


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Expand my mind a little further: What or who is the difference between Stick and Boxer? We got an alter ego thing going on here, i.e. Dion Sanders/Prime Time?


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Originally Posted by VaHillbilly
Cool, thanks Higbean, I liked that old dudes video.....I just looked over Hornadys factory ballistics chart and compared the energy rating of the 6.5 Creed with 143 grain ELD-X ( 1302 ft/pd @500yds) to the Hornady factory .300 Win 200 grain ELD-X (2033 ft/pd @500 yds) or the .300 Win 180 gr GMX (1858 ft/pd @500yds) thats at least 550 ft pounds more energy...so what is Spoomer refering to here? Is Hornady paying him to push their 6.5 Creed maybe?......Or is he refering to energys at even further distances than 500 yds that are not listed?.......Hb


A clear case of “bullets matter more than headstamps.” In the video, it appeared he was comparing the Creed with 140gr Amaxes that have a .585 BC to the .300 Win with 180gr core loct which has a .438 BC. Point being, with some judicious bullet selection, you can handily beat mainstream .300 win mag ballistics with a whole bunch less recoil and a whole bunch more barrel life.

On the other hand, if you pick a high BC bullet to shoot in your .300, you’ll best the 6.5 Creedmoor but at the expense of much more recoil and less barrel life.

The bullet that works the best is the one put in the right place and the Creedmoor makes it easy to do that.

John


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Originally Posted by StudDuck
Expand my mind a little further: What or who is the difference between Stick and Boxer? We got an alter ego thing going on here, i.e. Dion Sanders/Prime Time?


"They" are bottom feeding reprobates. You know....loser, zero, immoral degnerates......get the drift?


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Originally Posted by VaHillbilly
Cool, thanks Higbean, I liked that old dudes video.....I just looked over Hornadys factory ballistics chart and compared the energy rating of the 6.5 Creed with 143 grain ELD-X ( 1302 ft/pd @500yds) to the Hornady factory .300 Win 200 grain ELD-X (2033 ft/pd @500 yds) or the .300 Win 180 gr GMX (1858 ft/pd @500yds) thats at least 550 ft pounds more energy...so what is Spoomer refering to here? Is Hornady paying him to push their 6.5 Creed maybe?......Or is he refering to energys at even further distances than 500 yds that are not listed?.......Hb


A clear case of “bullets matter more than headstamps.” In the video, it appeared he was comparing the Creed with 140gr Amaxes that have a .585 BC to the .300 Win with 180gr core loct which has a .438 BC. Point being, with some judicious bullet selection, you can handily beat mainstream .300 win mag ballistics with a whole bunch less recoil and a whole bunch more barrel life.

On the other hand, if you pick a high BC bullet to shoot in your .300, you’ll best the 6.5 Creedmoor but at the expense of much more recoil and less barrel life.

The bullet that works the best is the one put in the right place and the Creedmoor makes it easy to do that.

John




It's just not that simple. Can't be.


There's a few examples of what you're talking about on the stupid list I posted. Lots will outperform others, provided you handload. 6.5 CM does it out of the box....


But I still like the 1925 version of the mighy Creed..

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