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When I saw the title of this thread my pay answer was Liiisa...
WINNER!!!
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
--Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
--ironbender
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When I saw the title of this thread my pay answer was Liiisa...
WINNER!!! Chicken dinner! I would put my money on the 375HH
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Thinking here that the only answer containing a recommendation should be from an ALASKAN!
But I had a thought or two. The 45/70 has been loaded up to the moon & the 458 can't be handled by just anyone. So... a loaded down 458 seems to be an answer. But a 20" 375 ruger could? be more versatile? & have ample(a lot of) power? with added flatter trajectory?
Just dreaming, if I ever get up there, it probably wont be with a tag.
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50 Alaskan. Joe Want would say 500 Nitro Express.
Joe still polluting AOD? The mods there drove me away 2/3 years ago, thought I'd heard rumors Joe had been giving the boot. That is what happens when the idiots are protected by idiots and all opinion trumps correct information. Joe might know more about AK hunting than every idiot over there. The story behind Joe Want, was a fella over there on AOD drew a Kodiak bear tag. This fella went and did the hunt and ended up shooting a 6 1/2 brown bear. The story I got ol Joe Want was not happy, and called this guy every name in the book through pm. The guy who shot it is a well respected guy over there, anyhow Joe Want was never banned he just left due to differences of opinions with this fella and another fella by the name of bushrat the founder of RHAK.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I gave up on AOD when it became more of a Sh?tShw than I wanted. I know Joe from gunshows and from talking to him around town. I taught his grand daughter this past semester. After further thought the 416 Remington Echol's custom used by Tia Shoemaker is the Big Bore Rife of the year.
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While have a like nib model 70 classic stainless in a 375 H&H. I bought it new, shot it 15 times 5 yrs ago. I carry either a 338 wsm or 30-06 sometimes my 325 wsm.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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"If I was going out to pack game back in...12ga w/ Brennekes."
One of the last combos I would choose. There are more piss poor choices for bear protection, but not many. Yeah genius...what is your profound knowledge of bears, let alone Wilderness? Betting you haven't been off your couch in years..........if ever.
Don't ask me about my military service or heroic acts...most of it is untrue.
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Let me guess, if it's really dicy bear country, you load alternating slugs and double ought buck!
Good grief.
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All my years up here hunting I have never seen anyone packing 45-70.. I seen just about every bolt action though.. remington, Winchester, browning, Ruger etc.. but no marlin lever gun in 45-70.. far as shotguns only time I ever seen a shotgun being carried was down on the upper Kenai during salmon season..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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"If I was going out to pack game back in...12ga w/ Brennekes."
One of the last combos I would choose. There are more piss poor choices for bear protection, but not many. Yeah genius...what is your profound knowledge of bears, let alone Wilderness? Betting you haven't been off your couch in years..........if ever. You made a very bad choice for someone to call out... He might have actually used a handgun on a charging Kodiak bear... and may just have tremendous time in seriously wild country. And I will say he is widely respected... And I agree with his comments.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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50 Alaskan. Joe Want would say 500 Nitro Express.
Joe still polluting AOD? The mods there drove me away 2/3 years ago, thought I'd heard rumors Joe had been giving the boot. That is what happens when the idiots are protected by idiots and all opinion trumps correct information. Joe might know more about AK hunting than every idiot over there. The story behind Joe Want, was a fella over there on AOD drew a Kodiak bear tag. This fella went and did the hunt and ended up shooting a 6 1/2 brown bear. The story I got ol Joe Want was not happy, and called this guy every name in the book through pm. The guy who shot it is a well respected guy over there, anyhow Joe Want was never banned he just left due to differences of opinions with this fella and another fella by the name of bushrat the founder of RHAK. Thanks for the back story...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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"If I was going out to pack game back in...12ga w/ Brennekes."
One of the last combos I would choose. There are more piss poor choices for bear protection, but not many. Yeah genius...what is your profound knowledge of bears, let alone Wilderness? Betting you haven't been off your couch in years..........if ever. Who are you to say anything??
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Why anyone would readily choose a shotgun with slugs for anything when there was a rifle available was always a puzzler to me.
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"If I was going out to pack game back in...12ga w/ Brennekes."
One of the last combos I would choose. There are more piss poor choices for bear protection, but not many. Yeah genius...what is your profound knowledge of bears, let alone Wilderness? Betting you haven't been off your couch in years..........if ever. Oops Jeff has probably spent more time in wild country while at work than most of us get in a season of hunting. But he may have been on a couch the whole time he was in Africa, sneaky bastid just camouflaged the couch in all those pics he showed me.
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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I think a 12 gauge slug gun would work fine if loaded with the right slugs. The Dixie hard cast IXL dangerous game slugs weigh 870 grains and have out penetrated alot of medium- big bore rifles in tests using cattle bones and wet newsprint to catch the bullets and measure penetration. Dixie loads the hard cast slugs to 1250 fps out of a 20" slug barrel and sells them as components to load yourself.
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Why anyone would readily choose a shotgun with slugs for anything when there was a rifle available was always a puzzler to me. I'd wager to say it puzzles most everyone with a fair amount of firearms experience, who also study ballistics a bit; rather than believing old wives tales.
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"If I was going out to pack game back in...12ga w/ Brennekes."
One of the last combos I would choose. There are more piss poor choices for bear protection, but not many. Yeah genius...what is your profound knowledge of bears, let alone Wilderness? Betting you haven't been off your couch in years..........if ever. You made a very bad choice for someone to call out... He might have actually used a handgun on a charging Kodiak bear... and may just have tremendous time in seriously wild country. And I will say he is widely respected... And I agree with his comments. While I've not had to shoot any charging bears, I have spent a fair amount of time(going on 34 years) working/hunting/fishing/camping in just about every corner of Alaska. To include "going out to pack game". But, it looks like there's a new sheriff in Alaska, so I'll defer to his vast knowledge and experience. 
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Good plan...
Happy New Year!
Don't ask me about my military service or heroic acts...most of it is untrue.
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The good Sheriff's profile doesn't say where he's from. Lots of non-Alaska folks have watched a couple of episodes of Alaska reality shows and feel qualified to tell us how it should be done.
Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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